Monday, December 28, 2020

Guest Submission: Chastity as a Relationship Tool; the ins and outs (By AJ)

 I was very excited to see a guest post in my inbox from AJ. AJ has submitted guest posts in the past and I always enjoy reading about her experiences in FLR and her female perspective on FLRs. She outdid herself with her latest post. It's is filled with lots of great advice and ideas for a leading a FLR/WLM.  Great to hear from you again AJ!  -Mz Kaylee

Chastity as a Relationship Tool; the ins and outs

An introduction to who I am….. I am a happily married woman who has been married now for about 25 years. For the past 6 years I have been living within an FLR structured relationship with my wonderful husband of those same 25 years. Within our current relationship, we are deeply engaged in the strict practice of male chastity and that is of the 24 x 7 long term chastity variety. My husband is typically allowed out of his device (discounting any urgent temporary medically related needs) only three times a year. So for basically 362 days of the year he lives in full time chastity. I allow him out three times a year, somewhat randomly, to keep his sexual drive alive for “conventional” sex. On one of those yearly occasions, I allow him to make love to me traditionally through PIV sex, and on one of the other remaining instances I will allow him to make love to me anally (my supreme gift to him on that one - actually I have come to enjoy it…). And on the third and final instance, I give him a full blown blow job to include allowing him to cum in my mouth and my also swallowing that said cum. Those are my three yearly special gifts to him - if he is good and behaves that is. Why just those 3 times?

First to not totally exclude those pleasurable activities from his life. I am not totally extinguishing his hope for occasionally partaking in those activities so pleasurable to him.

Secondly, by just allowing him those 3 specific instances, they become intensely special and therefore all the more pleasurable and rewarding to him and are ever so much ingrained upon his conscious and subconscious mind throughout the long dry spells. He lives with those 3 special days on his brain for the remainder of the year until the next wonderful gift is bestowed upon him from his queen.

Thirdly (an awkward sounding word) rationing these gifts out, they highlight my complete sexual control of his body and it clearly states who is in charge there and who is not. She who giveth can also take it completely away…. I allow him these three hallowed sexual flavors to make him absolutely aware of what he is giving up for me on those other 362 days of the year, and what adhering to chastity during those long 362 days can provide him as just reward if he continues to behave for me.

 Finally and absolutely most importantly, because rationing his orgasms enhances all of the other aspects of our FLR lifestyle, primarily those which live outside of the sexual arena. It serves to put him into that deep naturally occurring “subspace” which is essential for our FLR marriage to work and thrive. He is put into the right mindset to give selflessly to me every day of the year. He is also in the right mindset to see and receive all of the other gifts I present to him throughout the year. This is the dynamic which allows him to perform the vast majority of our household chores without rancor and with simple derived self pleasure. He likes doing the dishes for me, he likes doing the household laundry. He likes running my bath and massaging my feet. He does many things for the greater satisfaction of his wife and that provides him with a direct sexual and psychological kick. I am not saying this lightly or with jest. He actually is mentally happy to do these things for me and amazingly enough as well, he is frequently sexually stimulated by these acts. His penis frequently weeps with precum as he goes about his chores, I’ve seen this many a time now. It's like he becomes a perpetually simmering pot of hyper sensitized sexual energy within, and all of this energy is primarily directed towards me. This is also the dynamic which which allows my sexual pleasure to become his own pleasure. Almost every night he goes down upon me and almost every night I am guaranteed to get a minimum of one orgasm and even on some occasions two or even three. I’ve been able to train his tongue and lips like the oral stud he now is. While he is going down on me, he clearly is in his own special sexual nirvana. His tongue becomes his cock and he enjoys every stroke and every delightful flavor that I can offer. I could go on and on with these behavioral enhancements. I am 100% convinced that these nuances are all derived from his retaining for me. I know what I had before chastity and I definitely know what I have after prolonged chastity.

You might read all of the above and think “the poor guy”, so little in it actually for him. That I am just taking without giving. But this couldn’t be further from the truth. By his own verbalized admissions and by his own demonstrated behavior he loves our lifestyle and thrives upon it. Sexually its not a one way street just for my pleasure. You cannot just lock a man and forget it and expect everything which I mentioned above to work and come to fruition. As his wife I have responsibilities to keep the FLR dynamic and passion working and fruitful for him. But I’m here to tell you that what I need to provide him daily to do that is so incredibly easy for me. Because of what he does for me daily and so selflessly and from his heart, I am therefore more than happy and excited to provide him also with what he needs. Its so incredibly easy and simple to maintain his FLR passion. A few minutes a day on my part fuels him for an entire day of devotion. Praise his acts of devotion, "good boy," "good girl," or "you sexy man" (or whatever endearment that works to get into his head that day). "You did such a good job of folding my panties, I’m so proud of you" and pat his crotch with affection. As he is bent over the sink doing the dishes, come up behind him and rub his crotch or rub his ass suggestively. When you notice his cock weeping with precum, take notice of it. Wipe it with your finger and lick it, or have him lick it off. "Good Boy." Take his clothes from him and have him walk around the house naked for your pleasure. Make him wear a pair of your dirty panties on another day. "Your such a wonderful pussy licker." "I love when you eat my ass out." Be vocal and dirty when he’s driving you crazy with his tongue. 

Let him know he's doing a good job, encourage him. Be in command and direct his tongue to best stimulate you. Men of this mindset get in the zone by being commanded and directed. In the morning or evening before bed, cup his naked balls in your hand and take a minute to apply body lotion to them in a sexual manner, "good boy, your balls feel so heavy." Smile knowingly at him. Cop a feel of his caged package quickly and secretively while in public places. "You did a really nice job raking out the lawn," and pat his ass briefly through his pants. All extremely very low energy easy stuff and it takes literally less than 5 minutes a day to refuel his tank this way. You get the idea here. Invest 5 minutes and get a day in return, pretty good trade off I would say. 

On top of all of this indirect sexual innuendo which I lavish on him daily, I also occasionally provide him with other more direct methods of sexual fulfillment. We have come to enjoy pegging in our relationship. Its an exchange of power and very physical and enjoyable for him (and me). He is loathe to admit that he does enjoy it, but we both know that he does. That’s part of the FLR aspect of it for the both of us. I enjoy taking his ass possessively and that fact that I don’t necessarily wait for his agreement to do so (figuratively speaking) enhances the act for us both. I am the dominant and he is the submissive. I am not raping him, he just struggles with what he views as the traditionally gay aspect of this act, and I push pass those barriers to which he tries to put in place as I peg him as needed and upon my random discretion. Very frequently now, I am able to milk his prostate with our pegging sessions, and he oozes quite the puddle of cum for me from these sessions. I further kink up this activity by insisting that he eat his own cum when this happens (in fact any time when he cums he must eat it up). It really messes with his mind in a overall positive manner when this occurs. I also have come to really enjoy this act. It has been an evolution process for us both. I really relish the feeling of control and dominance over him and it makes me very wet to see how he ultimately responds to it. 

Finally, he has also managed to have several totally hands free orgasms over the years. They are rare but they do occasionally occur. By hands free I mean nothing up the butt, no touching or contact of any sort. For us this seems to occur very sporadically when he has been retaining for a long period of time, when he is particularly mentally over stimulated and when he is engaged in orally pleasuring me. When all of these psychological stars align in his mushy brain, sometimes that results in him experiencing a slow draining of his prostate, very much like a milking but without the direct stimulation of his prostate. Extremely hot for me to observe this when it has occurred. For me this is like getting the academy award for doing everything right in our FLR relationship. Its an affirmation that we are doing something very right for how we have mutually defined our relationship. So really he does orgasm more than those 3 times a year. Its just that I limit the more conventional methods and orgasms to 3 times a year and the other times are just more like ruined orgasms.

I guess there is also one other additional benefit or change that has resulted directly from our long term chastity play and how it has shaped our FLR relationship and our sexual DNA. As a woman, I was always more in touch with the emotional and romantic aspects of relationships. Sex was just a nice by product for me but I really longed for the romantic aspects of a relationship and sex was definitely secondary for me. Men as I think we all know, are very physical in nature typically. The touch and feel and romance is not a natural condition for them. They quite frankly are all typically about sticking it in a hole and cumming. As our marriage has evolved from following the straight and narrow vanilla marriage to this definitely kinky FLR marriage, both of these stereotypical definitions of what a man needs and what a woman needs, have shifted from these somewhat opposing bookends to a meeting point which is more closely at the center. While I still greatly enjoy romance (and get it in spades from him) I have also achieved a much more sexually physical self. Basically I have come to really enjoy the physical and psychological nature of having sex, much like a man traditionally experiences. For his part, particularly when he has not ejaculated for a significant period of time and has not been provided with that hormonal release, he has definitely become more emotionally sensitive and emotionally needy as well. So he has developed some of the attributes that we would typically define for a woman, the need for touch and feel and dare I say, some romance. So I think it definitely has brought us together this special way as a couple. Pretty cool I would say.

This was the why and the benefits of chastity as I have experienced them in my marriage. I will write another post on the how to best implement chastity. Stat tuned.....

-AJ


40 comments:

  1. Great post.

    AJ do you have a profile. It would be interesting to see how you started your FLR.

    Joe

    Joe

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  2. Thank you very insightful, I think my Mistress will find this helpful!

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  3. My goodness AJ. That was spectacular. It's as if you have peeked a little in to the life my Mistress K. and I live, and is an endorsement of it. I can't wait to read this to Mistress K. during our regular Sunday morning readings of the best stuff I see all week. Thank you for sharing and thank you Mz Kaylee for allowing it.

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  4. Awesome...the more we ponder Female Supremacy the more we appreciate and admire the Women who embrace their superiority. I know my mind is weak & simple compared to Mistress. I know I would be lost without Her. Chastity & discipline will overcome backsliding.

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    1. Mz Kaylee,
      My Queen asked that i tell you your selection of AJ was an excellent follow up to your prior post as she wanted me to ask you in your post under “Big Changes” you mention chastity. My Queen also read in an earlier blog where you were considering putting Thomas in chastity. She asks: Have you put your husband in chastity and if you have do you see benefits?
      My wife also would like to thank AJ for her excellent article and tell her she looks forward to reading her follow up piece.
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    2. Walt- send thanks to your Queen for me. I have not used chastity with my husband yet.,He is still on the honor system. However, I do see it as something that I will likely implement in the future.

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    3. Mz. Kaylee ... there must be something in the air. All of my favorite Dommes (Mistress K. and you) are making a shift from the honor system to placing their husbands in a cage. Hmmm. Progress I suppose.

      Happy New year Mz. Kaylee!

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  5. I can attest to what AJ is saying. I have been in near 24/7 chastity since July. We used a device as punishment many years ago then it was used more and more. After several years she saw changes, when I was wearing it, she liked and decided I needed to wear it full time. I feel like she really tamed me doing this. I do love the term "oral stud". As husbands in a WLM I think we become very proud of our oral skills. When you can't reach down and randomly touch yourself it has a strong psychological effect and you start to look at sex more the way a women does you really cherish just the intimacy and caressing. I have never been pegged, but I would assume this would complete the transformation to becoming a perfect submissive hubwife. Happy New Year- Alan.

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    1. Alan, I like how she started small and then eventually made it permanent. I like doing slow transformational things like that with my husband. How long was it from the first time you wore a chastity until it became 24/7? What were some of the ways she started extending your time in the device?

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    2. We originally came upon male chastity and both thought it would be fun. I did a lot of research on style and fit, got lucky and got a perfect fit the first time. In the beginning I would wear it, she would tease me and let me out and we would have fabulous sex. I had a habit of touching myself during sex which she didn’t allow as she thought all my attention should be on her. After she caught me a couple of times she said “ you obviously can’t control yourself, I want you to wear a cage every time we have sex”. “If there is any need to let you out I’ll give you the keys”. This lead to keeping me in three or four days after denials. To give me time to calm down, she explained. About a year ago, after she really embraced WLM,one of my punishments was you will wear the cage for a week. She said my behavior completely changes when I am wearing it. In February she said “ you behave so well when you are caged I think we are going to try you wearing it all the time. I lobbied against this idea, but when you get to the point we are anything I say is treated as a mere suggestion. I missed making the bed one day and that cost me two weeks in the cage.
      I thought she had forgotten about the whole thing until July. I spoke to her in a disrespectful tone and she told me to get my cage on. We were at the lake house and were having company that weekend so I didn’t pack it. She told me I needed to get used to being around people with it on as I was going to be wearing it permanently soon. I was near home for some business the next day I came back to the lake house with it on. I have been out a total of four days since then and she doesn’t allow me to know where the keys are. She also came up with an ingenious system to tell if I pulled out, which I have never tried, but it gives her piece of mind. So I am only allowed out to shave and clean once a week, under supervision and when I am allowed PIV, which is very rarely. This has been a big step for us, but it works I am super submissive to her now. Take care- Alan

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    3. Fantastic Alan!
      Very exciting.
      Very little need for cock, yes? Seems like she has you trained very well. You almost forget you have it on maybe.
      Nice!

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    4. Mike, yes use of my cock is for my pleasure only. She really likes her dildo for intercourse. The last couple of times she has made me wear a condom when she allows me in. I don’t know what this is about,I guess one of those little changes Mz Kaylee was talking about.We have had the cage for six or seven years, but until a year ago it only got used on occasion. I do forget I have it on quite a bit. It’s usually when I see or read something that turns me on I reach down for a little rub and I feel nothing. That’s when reality sets in. Happy New Year.- Alan

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    5. I love how your wife approached it Alan. I enjoyed reading it. She is a gem. Consider yourself a lucky guy. Thanks for sharing.

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  6. Thank you AJ for the wonderful peek inside your FLR. I admire strong women like you. I have a question. As someone who is kept in a chastity device most of the time as well, what kind of device does your husband wear? I wear MM's Jail Bird because of it's open design and being able to keep clean plus it's the belt my wife selected!
    I understand the struggles wearing a belt for long periods of time. Comfort is very important.
    Thank you and I hope to see more of your wonderful posts!

    JB

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  7. Dear Miss AJ, wow! How lucky is your husband! For most married submissives and sissies like me, the thought of a blow job and cumming in her mouth does not even enter our wildest imagination. That is something we have never done in 25 years. As for anal?!? Gosh! It wouldn't even cross my mind. Sissy Jenna

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  8. Fabulous read!
    Great to see another couple where hubs is very restricted to full orgasms as well. We've implemented similar concepts and has been working wonderfully.

    Less emphasis on penetration and perhaps overall sex for arousal in order to bring out the submissive aspect of hubs. I've mentioned before that this is how behavior and tasks become more significant than sex in some ways as such energy is channelled elsewhere to be productive. A cock has less use and the beholder develops to greatness :)

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  9. Thank you for sharing Alan. What is funny is that panties had a similar effect on my husband as what you described with chastity. His behavior always improved when he wore panties. It started out with me making him wear them for a day or two for fun or for punishment. As I noticed the effect on him, I came up with more excuses to put him in them and we was wearing them regularly. Then one time he really pissed me off and I had him pack away his boy underwear until further notice. After several weeks of 24/7 panties, I told him that was the new norm. I remember telling him how much better he behaves when wearing panties and saying something like, "it's better this way, don't you think?" He has not worn boy underwear again. So wild how this was similar to your experience with chastity. I love it and loved reading your comment!

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    1. I would guess my lingerie wearing will go from punishment to permanent eventually. So I will probably be doing both and it appears Thomas may also. This will be an exciting adventure for both of you if you decide to go through with it. Might be tricky with kids in the house. Our experience has come since the kids have moved away. Either way it will blow his mind how submissive he will become the first time you walk away with the keys. Stay safe- Alan

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    2. Funny that you mention the kids Alan. That's precisely the reason I have not gone forward with chastity. I know we could pull it off with the kids around but it's just not something I want to do. Next year both kids will be in college so we'll see what happens then.

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    3. It is an exciting journey. There are some strong psychological effects on the man. I’m sure Thomas in his forties will come to this point much quicker than I did. There is a point that I came to that I felt hopeless and the fact that this was not going away, that this was real life that I went through something like a panic attack. I pleaded to my wife that I wanted out, I just needed it off. Sarah was very sympathetic and very tender with me, but told me if she allowed it off then it wouldn’t be her decision and that was something she wasn’t willing to give up. It was areal turning point for me that took it from a game to real life. It’s one thing to agree to not cum without permission or not touch yourself, quite an other to have a physical barrier between you and your favorite toy. I will say it has probably had a bigger effect on our relationship than any step we have taken before. Good luck if you decide to go through with it. -Alan

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    4. "I went through something like a panic attack. I pleaded to my wife that I wanted out, I just needed it off. Sarah was very sympathetic and very tender with me, but told me if she allowed it off then it wouldn’t be her decision and that was something she wasn’t willing to give up."

      OMG - I loved reading that! My hear rate just went up. Such powerful control and deep submission. Your wife is strong for not giving in and she handled it perfectly. Thank you for sharing.

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    5. Pat yourself on the back, she learned this from reading your posts. Seriously, thank you for helping make my fantasy wife come to life. All the best-Alan.

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  10. I already have been told I will also be heading down the lingerie route the next time I misbehave. I'm sure it will progress along the same lines and I will end up like Thomas with my own lingerie drawer. To be honest, I never in my wildest fantasies thought this would go this far. It's such a love, hate situation. I really don't like wearing the cage, but I love the fact that she is dominate enough to make me wear it. Happy New Year- Alan.

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  11. Huge transitions!
    Excellent

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  12. AJ
    This is a wonderful post ! Thank you for taking the time to give us a snapshot of your life with your husband. From the comments it appears there is a great interest in practicing chastity within the WLM/FLR community !

    I have never been blessed to find a woman that truly accepts the principles of a WLM . I think for this reason I am always thrilled to hear comments from women like yourself and Mz Kaylee. It gives me hope that you have not only accepted your husbands desire for submission but have embraced the lifestyle. I especially enjoyed your comments about the surprising psychological effects that chastity and pegging have created in your relationship. These acts go far beyond the passion of the moment and are life changing for both.I hope women reading this post will come to better understand the wonderful benefits of a WLM/FLR and realize that it takes very little effort on her part . I have commented many times in the past about the value of expressions of power . These are simply statements like you mentioned that add tremendous motivation to the submissive and enhance the growth of her dominance. Power is found in the moment by moment application that is void of resistance.

    Thank you
    John Dalton

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  13. I love connection about chastity and restricting orgasms. I have not found a comfortable, reliable device, however, I'm not allowed to cum.

    Like MZ Kaylee/Thomas , I'm on the honor system. There's a paradigm, conundrum, with seeing a hard cock struggle, seek and hunt for stimulation when none will be given, that is satisfying.

    I'm curious though with others how or when more wives transition to only receiving oral primarily for orgasms vs intercourse. Unlike other contributors here, my wife enjoys intercourse somewhat frequently, so a cage may not be paramount. Again, I'm not allowed a release in order to bring out the submissive qualities described above.

    This has made me ponder if a male orgasm is necessary in a wlm. As indicated, it appears the male body will find a way to cum if really needed in certain circumstances. I've found this to be true as well. At some point, for the wife and hubs, the male orgasm no longer appears to be the motivator, pinnacle act in sex or the relationship. The serving attitude and the energy expressed other ways such as giving oral becomes much more significant. The male orgasm almost becomes an afterthought vs an incentive or reward.

    But maybe thats just me

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    1. I highly recommend a custom chastity device for long term wear. The wife and I purchased from Mature Metal in early summer and it was a major improvement over the off the shelf devices we had tried. My lockups are getting longer and longer (currently about 10 weeks and counting) and I am generally out once a week for a good washing. The longer I am in it the more comfortable it is to wear and the more comfortable she is keeping me in it. :)

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  14. Mike, you are right your body will find a way to ejaculate given enough time. I was on the honor system for over ten years and had several nocturnal emissions, which only seemed to encourage my wife to deny me longer. I have yet to achieve one while in my cage. You seem to have a much purer form of submission which I admire. My submission is all based on the need for stimulation and orgasm. When I'm begging to be released, it's real. At the moment I can't think of anything else, I want out more than I can stand. Unfortunately for me it amuses my wife to see me this way and simply say "not this time". She knows the orgasm is my whole motivator and has learned over the years how to use this fact to get what she wants. Funny thing is, I love this torture. Take care- Alan

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  15. The torture is great, right?! It's the strange mystery thats so delightful.

    Yes, very true on the nocturnal emissions. She mentioned the other day that she doesn't really see a major reason or advantage to her for me to cum anymore. I suppose I can't really disagree.

    It amazing though how that energy could be redirected in other ways thats productive and pleasing to her though

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    1. "She mentioned the other day that she doesn't really see a major reason or advantage to her for me to cum anymore. I suppose I can't really disagree."

      I respectfully disagree. Although it is never about me being allowed an orgasm and my having an orgasm is not the definition of happy, successful sex, knowing that that I would never have an orgasm again would be something that I know I couldn't handle.

      AS it is, I get 2-3 full orgasms a year and perhaps 3-5 non-orgasm ejaculations (ruined) per year. I'm not complaining. Not in the least bit. In fact, I'm having the best sex I have ever had in my life. That said, I still would need to know that orgasms will be coming, however in frequent they may be.

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  16. Hey there sub hub
    I agree the knowing or occurrence of an orgasm is terrific. Although mentally, since it's that rare, I no longer really hope or expect them. The rare times they happen is only because she is about to cum herself and rather not have me pull out. That happens about 2 or 3 times a year and they aren't welcomed and with frustration and an apology on my end. Mostly it's not good because of my sour behavior for a period of time after. She still tolerates once a month or so ruined orgasms.

    Overall, it works out. I don't crave full ones anymore. I don't even desire to edge myself either. My attitude has been excellent and very much still motivated.

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    1. Hey Mike. Happy New Year !

      I hear ya brother. I don't expect or hope for them either, but like you, they happen rarely and occasionally. Unlike you, if I'm in the same situation and she's about to cum and I need to pull out, I still had better have permission to cum or there will be consequences ... like a very red bottom. Over the years, I think the very infrequent orgasms has trained me to greatly minimize the afterward sour behavior time. That plus the fact that Mistress K. simply does not allow any sour attitude or behavior, no matter the reason.

      Seems like you are evolving similarly in that you don't lose your motivation. That's fantastic.

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  17. Hey happy new year to you as well!
    Yes, always to pull out is expected. Yet for me, since the orgasms are so rare, the sub drop is pretty severe for some reason.

    It's rare on those accidents, but she doesn't want to lose the momentum and I'll just hear about it after.

    Those times I do cum early rarely, it's more of a tease and a stronger desire to want it more so that struggle becomes more difficult.

    So mentally, since it makes her happier not to, I don't have an abstract release day to look forward to. Nonetheless, I suppose ride those orgasms are for me and not her. So I logically think do I really need it.

    The only planned permissable one given that I can think of was on my birthday. And that was a " you can cum if you really want to" like a test lol. Now that is a terrible mind trick to play on one ha.

    Ah well

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  18. AJ, your post is packed with so much great wisdom for women. I also allow very few orgasms and think it is important to allow them every now and then to remind him of what he is missing. It also keeps his long-term denial from being too easy by knocking him out of the "denial-zone" that his mind gets into. Every so often over the years, I will allow him to orgasm 2 or 3 weeks in a row (or sometimes within a few days). He doe not know when it is coming or when it will stop. He never knows when he will be allowed to orgasm until the very last second. This really throws his mind for a loop because he quickly gets used to orgasms and then when I start on the long-term denial again he struggles a bit and has to rebuild his tolerance up again. I love keeping him on his toes like that.

    Also, your advice to "Invest 5 minutes and get a day in return, pretty good trade off I would say," is spot on and it's advice that the women readers should pay attention to. It took me awhile to get that concept but when I did, it was very powerful. Submission is highly mental and emotional and a few small 'dominant' gestures go a long way in the submissive's mind.

    Thanks again for sharing this post!

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    1. I agree completely with your endorsement of this writing Mz Kaylee. The common thread among Dominant Wives in successful, loving WLMs is the knowledge that your husbands desire, need, crave your attention sexually. Tease and deny is essential. Ignore and deny is the breeding ground for disaster in a marriage.

      I especially love how you will every so often allow, perhaps even require him to have a relatively large amount of orgasms in a short period of time. Mistress K. will sometime do that as well and I can tell you, when being treated like her own personal sex toy, and being allowed to cum like a drunk sailor on shore leave, albeit rarely, is a complete and utter (beautiful) mind fuck. For whatever it may be worth, I highly recommend such a thing to any Dominant Wife in a WLM.

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  19. I think all of this sounds great and all are doing well in their marriage. However, I got caught up in the idea of " it works well for them, it must work well for us." That was a bit erroneous on my part, to think of concepts and marital enhancements, in regards to wlm, this way.

    Communication has been great with my wife lately and discussed some of these ideas. And perhaps she/we are different in what we have/want in our wlm.

    From people I've met and read, most females in there 20s and 30s prefer intercourse over oral as the primary sexual source vs oral primarily. Many of the posts/guest posts favor less intercourse and more oral, yet my wife does not like that idea. Seems to be more of couples in the 40s and 50s as oral as the primary method.

    Also, she isn't interested in a cage, or tease and denial. Honor method has been great. And words of affirmation works great. " Thank you" is a huge motivator as well. Those have been great mind fucks. Lingerie and plugs haven't been a fantasy or desire either.

    I'm just not sure how I or Thomas for example, could say that they want more " bjs" or more "intercourse" or more "orgasms" in a productive conversation thats expected to go well.

    For those that know they will get a set min of orgasms in a year, if it was all done in Jan, would you be just as happy and motivated for the remaining 11 months?

    I'm just curious how a hubs approaches these ideas that they should have at least " this amount of this" ( orgasms, tease and denial) before it's considered topping from the bottom. And if such requests are being made, is it the hubs or the wife making the decision of what will be.

    Essentially, I suppose I/anyone simply just takes what works for them in a wlm and passes on the other concepts. I think it's too difficult and broad to say that " this is how it should be" or " one must do this". I'm not saying anyone is making that approach but I would say that one way isn't better than another for each couple as they all have their advantages.

    I think it's been going amazingly well. Of course more sex would be great, but I don't think I could imagine me requesting her that I get more bjs or orgasms because it pleases me.

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  20. Mike - Agree that there is no one right way for a WLM. Each couple has to do what works for them. As you noted, a person age may affect what works for them and there are other factors too such as how new or mature they are to WLM, whether there are kids in the home, and their current work-life balance. On the flip-side, I think it is a mistake for a person to take the mindset that "I am never going to do that" or "my way is the only way." The best way to grow your relationship and keep it exciting is to try new things, be open to new ideas, and even step outside of your comfort zone a bit. It's good to push boundaries every once in a while. I have learned to not say "never" because there are things I do now that several years ago I would not have imagined myself doing. What often happens in a WLM is that as the couple gets more comfortable in the dom/sub roles, they evolve and are open to new things and head down a path of more restrictive control.

    Open communication is important. If there is something you want than you should ask for it but you need to be prepared to accept the answer from your wife and not argue. In a WLM she has the final say. You also have to be smart in what you ask for and how often. Remember, you are serving her. She is not serving you. Is it a nice to have or something you really want or need? If you are peppering your wife with lots of "nice to have's" then it becomes more about you and it becomes tiresome for her to manage. I know many guys on this blog print out my posts and share them with their wife. My husband takes the same approach with me, printing out articles from other websites. This is a great approach as it allows the wife to read what others are doing or suggesting and then she can decide what ideas from the article to use. There are some articles that I read which I find informative and interesting but do not implement any of the ideas and there are some where I may find one single item in the article that resonates with me and I implement it.

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  21. Yes ma'am, I definitely agree with your assessment. I think I was a bit confused with sub hubs post or others that expect a certain standard of "x" on their wish list to be happy or content. I agree communication is paramount however, I don't have any expectation for the most part that I will get what I want. Actually,I just had a conversation with her about what she likes, and I am to provide them all on the list. There are quite a few items on my "wish list" that she simply disagrees and has no place with us. And That's great. My input on such rarely comes up and I don't feel I can request such things nor do I really desire to. I'm thrilled and satisfied that she gets her way and what she wants and has the liberty to get them. And yes, I've shared the blog with her.

    I think we've found a great balance of what works for us to where it's functional and satisfying.

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  22. Love your blog my wife and I get a real enjoyment from your advice. We were wanting to share a massive collection of punishment/ideas to you if you want my email is binkleypeter@gmail.com let us know

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