Monday, May 25, 2020

Follow-up To Redirecting His Sexual Energy

Below is a well thought out follow-up response from Mike on my last post. One of the concepts I introduced in my post was the idea that pleasure for the submissive male comes from many things other than intercourse. Mike provides good examples of how this has worked for him. I am glad he shared his experience with this as it is not always an easy concept to understand for those new to the lifestyle. His examples below provide real world examples of how the dynamic works. Thanks Mike for your contribution.  -Mz Kaylee

Here is Mike's response:

Mz Kaylee's last post, " "Redirecting His Sexual Energy", had great points that I made astounding connections. I thought I could share a little of my personal experience and perhaps others may find similarities. One big take away  was written in bold.

His sexual pleasure comes from being controlled, being mentally fucked, and pleasuring and obeying her. That is his sex

I find this to be a very solid truth in our marriage.  She also mentioned that there may be less sex than in a traditional marriage but more intense and impactful sex. I think other people posted similar experiences and I would probably agree wholeheartedly.
I may even go a step further and say that in our WLM, sex isn't a major foundational component or driving force of the relationship. Originally, sex was a main reason why we decided to enter a WLM. There were too many arguments and disappointments regarding sexual expectations prior to a WLM. We were at the point that sex was given at an obligation.

Now, I'd say the major foundation of our WLM is my wife's authority, leadership, the mind fuck, as Ms Kaylee described.  I don't think the mind fuck exists without that inner need to feel that arousal. I'd like to add the arousal I get from pleasing my wife is a driving force of my obedience.  "Sex" is the arousal of all things done to please her. In addition, my loyalty, trust and submissiveness to follow is expected and is given. Her natural sense to be in charge quickly became utilized for this lifestyle as that was the avenue she could mostly be herself.

I'll also put it this way. If we were to go back to the traditional marriage sex aspect, she may tolerate it and the relationship may be ok. However, if we took away her authority in the household and I was not submissive, I'd question how well our marriage would survive.  This is how much more of a driving force her leadership is as a backbone to our marriage.
I have theoretically 10 opportunities to please and satisfy her throughout the day, 7 days a week. I'm referring to these little tasks given such as making her coffee and breakfast, doing her laundry, cleaning the dishes, grocery shopping. These are times she expresses her power and for her to see that I follow her lead.  This is arousing for me and gratifying for her.  With that being said, sex only provides only one aspect to contribute to that balance. On the flip side, we don't have sex 10 times a day, 7 days a week. I'm sure someone would say to just give her 10 orgasms everyday. But that 7 days a week isn't very practical. At least not for us :)  So there are residual effects when following my daily duties and her giving me commands.

What has become more apparent is that sex is not FOR me. Sex is for my wife. While I thoroughly enjoy it, I do not have a say in when, how, how long, how fast to thrust, to cum etc. I'm left hard and wanting more, yet satisfied. The wife controls all and gets all the orgasms.  This is quite the change before we started a WLM.  I had sex when I had an urge for an orgasm and controlled all aspects and got that release each time.
I'm not stating sex is less important. But it has its place and there are other ways to please and satisfy and pleasure my wife that rank higher on the list. As Ms Kaylee wrote in bold, our daily sex that matters more is the mind fuck that continually reignites with all the serving.
Everytime she expresses her power and authority, it sends an impulse of arousal that keeps me submissive and under her control. Recently, there were erroneous charges on a credit card I had.  She was able to resolve the charges.  However, upon telling me this, she stated that since I was irresponsible, I would not have a credit card to use anymore.  This was an expression of her power and authority that was exhilirating and arousing.  This is her preferred method to keep me in check. Now that I think about it, she is clear in decions that would directly benefit her. This is true on directions with cleaning, making breakfast, laundry etc. Although, the majority of my tasks are expected and aren't daily stated at this point.

Regarding sex, it simply has become another way to serve her and give her pleasure. I don't receive cock teases, edging, corner time, or maintenance sessions, or kinks as these don't directly pleasure her. She doesn't get aroused by those and just isn't her way or fit her style. When she wants sex, it seems like she primarily wants her orgasms, after some time from the last one has passed and needs her urge satisfied. 
The other day, I had some time between activities and enjoying some quiet time in the bedroom. Moments before, she mentioned she was going to start on her DIY home decor project and didn't need me. Unexpectedly and to my surprise she came into the room, said to take off my pants. I did as I was told. Not much speaking occurred from that point. She clearly wanted her orgasms. No kissing, no foreplay. I'm given direction to give her oral or penetration.  After she had a few orgasms, she says she's had enough, says thank you, gets dressed and goes back to her home decor project. I'd say that's typically how our "sessions" go. My cock or mouth is a tool to give her what she wants. We do connect and it's intense, yet my role is simple and with one purpose. 
If my wife was asked, "what do you like most about your WLM?" I'm certain it wouldn't be about sex. She admits she likes being in control. If I were asked the same, or how can I make it better, I also wouldn't say anything about sex. I'd like to find more ways to better take her daily directions. I know this is an unpopular thought but this is why we don't view my full blown orgasms as exciting and and something to look forward to.  Or why having one in her also doesn't benefit her. I hope the insight on what we / she likes best about a WLM isn't really what most may like, sex. It's the empowerment she receives. My full orgasms infringes and corrupts, to a degree, the balance she is able to consistently control me and keep me in my place. 

During one session, I could tell she was in the mood to have big orgasms, so I brought her dildo to use. It is much larger than me and she thoroughly enjoyed the orgasms. Afterwards, she said she felt bad for enjoying the bigger, longer cock and me not being as involved. I told her she shouldn't feel bad and that I really enjoyed watching her get fucked by a larger dick. They are her orgasms to have and should do so more often as she pleases. She realized as did I, that my cock wasn't sufficient or adequate for what she wanted. And I'm not insecure by it. Sex she gives and allows me to have with her is a privelage and doesn't necessarily need me to get her orgasms. I know my role and my servitude under her leadership plays a more vital and valuable role than what my cock or mouth provide.  And I believe that is just at pleasing or satisfying to her as much if not more, than the sex I give her. I laugh a little, all of this may have " cuckold" all over it.  Today, I'm tasked with finding a certain seasoning/ spice at the grocery store. She'll be happy if I bring it home. She'll be disappointed if I do not. I wish to please her. I'm more concerned and thrilled with successfully completing her request more than being concerned if she wants a bigger cock than mine. Isn't that mind blowing?

Lastly, controlling the masturbating was tough. We both love to exercise. She's in an intense gym workout group and I do weight lifting, and running 4 to 5 days a week. I'm sure some of our sexual energy gets dispersed from exercise. It does for me. And perhaps she likes it as it helps controls my impulses. I would recommend people that struggle with masturbating to find something physical to do such as gardening, home projects, walking etc.  This was pivotal in keeping my mind off my dick and to put that energy elsewhere.

It's almost ironically and ridiculously sounding to have a WLM. We're essentially telling a guy, " you may have less sex, less orgasms, less say decisions, no masturbating, but have the most rewarding relationship ever." :)

I'm sure my story may sound strange and peculiar? 

Hope all is well

-Mike

22 comments:

  1. It doesn't sound strange and peculiar from my perspective. A lot of it sounds like things I have gone though over the years. It took many years for Sarah to get over the feelings of guilt about her getting off and me not or using her toy instead of me for intercourse. After me repeatedly telling her that I also got a thrill from being denied, she got over any guilty feelings.
    As you move forward your communication will get better and you will both confess things to each other that you would not have in a vanilla marriage. I know that most women say size doesn't matter, but I believe that in many cases this is to protect the male ego. At least in my case this was true, but as our conversations became more open it enventually came out that my size was just not adequate to do what she needed. Like you I just accepted the facts.
    I think you kind of touched on the fact that I don't think women fully embrace WLM until it is not just about sex. When my wife realized she had the ability to make lasting changes our WLM took off. Now she is putting her energy into forming me into the husband she always wanted. She told me a couple of days ago after a disagreement "we both decided I should be in charge and you will respect my authority". These types of interactions are my sex now. Don't get me wrong I want an orgasm as bad as ever, but I have just adjusted to the fact that I am going to be sexually frustrated most of the time and I just have to deal with it. A lot of my thrills come from her dominance outside the bedroom now and I think this is a common progression.
    P.S. I lost my credit card priveleges a couple of months ago. It's not as bad as you think having to ask to use hers.
    Great post, Mike. Take care- Alan

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    1. Hi Alan
      It is an adjustment. A good one.
      Would it be odd if she doesn't need you for sex anymore for her orgasms?
      Much doesn't seem to bother me as long as she's happy

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    2. My progression into WLM was similar to how you described it with your wife. I think many women follow a similar path when they are not the one who initiates the WLM.

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    3. I guess in the traditional sense it might seem odd. Considering we used to have normal vanilla sex. Foreplay, mutual oral sex, and hopefully a long session of intercourse. The difference now is that oral sex is one way now and the long session of intercourse is just not my cock. The intimacy is still there, it’s just for her benefit now. If it’s only been a few weeks since my last orgasm then we both know there will be nothing for me and it’s not even mentioned anymore, but she is happy and as you said that is the important part. Take care- Alan

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  2. Not strange at all.
    It is very interesting to read and always good to see couples who live like this.

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    1. Thanks! It's definitely rewarding and oddly enjoyable. Different than traditional norms but it's a great fit

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  3. It's pretty normal not to cum anymore during sex, and the wife not feel guilty or find it odd. It's rather normal for her and expected now.

    I'm not sure if it's good or bad to think sex as another form of service to your wife. While it's better than cleaning or running errands, is it wrong for her or me to think it's another form of a duty or act or way to please her?

    Maybe there are the many rules she sets in place for me not to over indulge or to know my limit? How long, fast or slow thrusting? When and how sex occurs? Not to cum? Maybe I'm just there to fulfill a purpose and not get caught up in the moment, to over reach with personal desires?

    If she enjoys oral like many wives, there's no need for my cock or erection for sex, right?

    Any thoughts Mz Kaylee? (Or others)?

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  4. In the context of a WLM, nothing you said is out of the ordinary. How your cock is used is up yo your wife.

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  5. Mz Kaylee kind of sums it up, it's not our cock anymore it belongs to our wives. More times than not mine stays in it's cage and is not invited out to play. This is how she wants it and I see it no different than folding the laundry the way she wants or loading the dishwasher the way she wants. We consider the first tenant of a WLM is that sex is for the pleasure of the wife period. Anything the husband gets should be considered a gift and a thank you is expected. That's just us, it will be interesting to see how yours plays out. Stay safe and take care- Alan

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    1. Hey there Alan
      Thanks for your words. It's good to know you have similar experiences and a similar mindset. I wasn't sure i was understanding that dynamic, but it does seem to make sense. Almost like a chore or a job, to perform.

      As enjoyable as sex is, it's the one activity that has the most restrictions and no control surprisingly. Moreover, it's become a little epiphany that sex is for her pleasure and that I'm a tool to ensure it happens. It is great.

      Can you tell me how she's choosing to have intercourse, without your cock? You may have said previously.

      I asked her if she has a release schedule for me. She said she really hadn't thought about it.

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    2. I use the dildo with my hand as when she gets close she wants me down there giving her oral. If your wife likes the thrusting and intimacy of intercourse you might try a strapon, although I would recommend a cage to keep the penis out of the way. We used one for a awhile just because there where positions she liked that I just couldn't achieve without slipping out. It's a bit humiliating at first to see her writhing and you are feeling nothing, but we do it for their pleasure not ours. Take care- Alan

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    3. Hi Alan
      Those are great recommendations. And I've actually tried them. What's strange is that I find it arousing and thrilling to see her with a bigger cock/dildo during intercourse. I encouraged her to do so more. The intimacy is there and she knows she really likes it.

      For a while, I voluntarily was wearing the cage because my erections didn't seem to have much purpose and started becoming a bit annoying.

      That's why I was curious if it's possible to have a great relationship when a cock isn't used at all to very little.

      Great stuff

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    4. I think it's common that you get off on seeing your wife take a bigger cock/dildo during intercourse. Just knowing that my penis is not enough and seeing how effortlessly she takes something larger sends me into subspace every time. Thumper did an entry on it March,18. He called a dildo "cuckold's next door neighbor". Stay Safe- Alan

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  6. Great. And if that's true, can you still have a healthy WLM if she chooses not to involve her husband's cock at all, since it's not needed?

    That was a follow-up question to "sex is a privelage for him" concept you mentioned previously. I thought that may be a future post. I wanted to ask for more understanding, but that can be done separately from this if need be.

    Sometimes with all my erections throughout the day, I humorously joke if it ever gets tired or hopeless. Because there's a small percentage comparatively to how often it gets actually used for sex :)
    Not necessarily complaining

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    1. Ahh, but a husband's cock is needed. What do you think gives us control over you? It is your weakness. It may not be needed for intercourse, but the dominant wife uses it as a means to control and motivate her husband. There are successful WLM's in which the husband is never allowed intercourse. However, for it to work it has to be balanced with other things that quench the man's sexual thirst (e.g.the concept of sex redefined for the submissive, which I talked about in my last post). No intercourse is not something I would recommend. My personal belief is that intercourse is an important part of the marriage and a bonding experience. I also enjoy it so it is not something I would eliminate entirely. However, I know of couples where the "no sex" rule for the husband is in place and it works. Everyone is different.

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    2. I think that's fantastic insight Mz Kaylee

      Although, I think you're essentially saying it could possibly go either way.

      For me, as well as some others mentioned, the mind fuck is rather powerful. You mentioned that is our sex. And those practices that engage the mind fuck are plentiful throughout the day, as I wrote. That seems to do wonders in order to keep me submissive.

      Moreover, providing oral to her is absolutely bonding intimate time as well.

      Many of the posts and blogs indicate intercourse at most is allowed once every few months to a few times a year. That implies there are many other ways intimacy and bonding occurs beyond intercourse. And those keep the men motivated and in their place.

      Again, that's what I've found to be strange and oddly arousing and thrilling.
      - doing chores
      - loss of financial control
      - not knowing when sex or orgasm would/ if occur again
      - asking permission for simple duties
      - being given commands

      On top of that it's arousing and exciting to see her take in another cock/dildo. That definitely keeps me in a subspace to be submissive.

      That could mean cuckold relationships can work well possibly with husband having little to no intercourse. You mentioned to that could also be successful relationship/marriage.

      I think that's in part why I wrote sex in the intercourse perspective, isn't a huge tenet in our WLM foundation, regarding being submissive. It's quite a bit to process. But if I realize I have no control over my cock when and how it's used, then I give in to surrendering... that my cock isn't purposed for my primary benefit, but for hers, as she wishes.

      I hope that makes sense?

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    3. I just wanted to add I definitely see how a cock could be a major influence for many. As man to be controlled, and for the woman to show authority. I'm not opposed to either method.

      It's just that the no sex/no cock route is fascinating and could work has healthy, satisfying relationship. And I see how other methods here described by many, of how the man can be controlled and incentivzed other than intercourse with a cock and to bond and be intimate other ways.

      Perhaps it's a woman's art form and yet many guys would never argue or oppose if their woman decided to go that route I imagine.

      Excellent concept

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  7. Great post, Mike! I know it sounds trivial, but really submitting sex as a service to Her is mind changing. For me, it was the key to help me changing my identity to totally submit to Her.

    I also liked how you picked out that sentence from Mz Kaylee regarding "His sexual pleasure... That is his sex". That's the secret to enjoying submission. It is a fundamental truth, and i think it's what has traditionally being pushed to women (and many enjoy it) but now Women can choose. Men in FLRs can learn a lot from "traditional" wives.


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    1. Mike,Outstanding post ! Like you I believe the magic key to happiness in a WLM and for that matter all marriages can be found in Mz Kaylee”s comment
      “His sexual pleasure comes from being controlled, being mentally fucked, and pleasuring and obeying her. That is his sex.” This has been true since the beginning of time !Entering a wife led marriage is not an step from the natural order but rather a correction that brings happiness and joy into the relationship. Men are born with the desire to please the woman they love . It is sad that the social norms presented as truth are the lies that destroy a couples intimacy .
      I am happy for you both .

      Take care
      John Dalton

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    2. Thanks khorina

      This is a huge change from vanilla sex. However, it's a terrific dynamic that makes us closer

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    3. Hi John

      Pleasing her in All I do is rewarding. Even for sex, for her purpose is fantastic. Any other revelations?

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    4. Of course. The dominance of women is natural. Our closest relatives are Bonobo monkeys, which are matriarchy.

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