1.Who am I
Bob
Male,
65 years old, living
in Southern California
2. My position in the relationship (submissive, dominant, or switch? If switch, do you favor one over the other?
Submissive
3. What is your current marriage status and WLM/FLR situation (Married and in a WLM, not married and in a FLR, not married but seeking a FLR, etc.)? What is status of your WLM (Beginners, Mature, Somewhere in the middle)
Married for 40 years
and entered into our wife led marriage about four years ago, We are past the
beginning stage and leaning to a mature WLM.
On a scale of 1 to 4, I would estimate our WLM something along the lines of a 3.5
4. When did you first discover your submissive/dominant desires?
I had “early onset” submissive
tendencies toward the women and girls I cared deeply about. Ever since I can
remember, I have fantasized about dominant women. Longer term girlfriends were the girls most
confident in themselves and I married a very confident, competent woman.
5. Describe how WLM/FLR was introduced into your relationship? Explain your experiences of how you went from discovering submission/domination up to the point of being in a WLM/FLR?
I asked my wife to
consider leading in our relationship, as I was tired of the passive aggressive
fighting for control that had been occurring over the last few years of our
marriage. As our lives changed due to
various reasons, examples; work related changes for me, changes in our personal
lives as we became empty nesters, changes in our two children’s lives as they
both went through divorces in their respective marriages. My attitude, and certainly our marriage,
suffered the strain of these life changing events.
Having traveled most
of my working career, my wife was basically a “Supermom”. She ran the house very well, raising our two
kids, more than competently “Holding Down the Fort” all those years. Don’t get me wrong, I was very much involved
with the family when I was home, which included most weekends and all holidays. I attended and supported the kids school
programs and athletic events, Boy Scouts, etc.
I handled all of our home maintenance, took the family on vacations, and
loved being a Dad and husband. But, it
was my wife who was home every night with the kids, who handled the bill paying
and finances, who maintained a full time job, who enrolled them in sports, and
who worked homework with them. It was
not uncommon for me to be traveling four nights a week, gone from home Monday
morning until Friday night three out of four weeks a month. She had learned to make independent
decisions without me looking over her shoulder.
Neither of us are ones
who like confrontation, but of the two of us, I was the one who mastered the
art of passive aggressive hostility. As my attitude toward life in general
soured, I became a bear to live around, not too much made me happy. I realized that I was putting everything I
had highly valued in jeopardy. I knew
she was not happy and, if I didn’t want to lose her, I needed to make some
changes.
One Sunday, I took her
to lunch, and I poured my heart out to her.
I told her how much I admired her, and that I was very proud of
everything she had accomplished in our marriage, including the incredible
mother she had been to our two kids. I
told her of the reasons that I had fallen for her to begin with: her smile, her
laugh, her intelligence, her beauty, her tenacity, and her dedication to
staying fit. I told her that I had always been attracted to her because of her
sense of purpose, her great moral compass, and her joy for life.
I admitted to her that
I had become very difficult to live with, and I was very sorry about it. I told her that I had no excuses for my poor
behavior toward her and I asked her to help me bring those problems to a
stop. I told her that I had given our
relationship a lot of thought and that I believed we were best as a couple, and
that I was at my happiest when she led our personal lives and our household. I conceded to her that our relationship had
become strained because I was quashing the very spirit in her that I valued so
much.
I told her I was ready
to accept her guidance, and would listen to and accept every criticism she had
of me as gospel according to her. I told
her that my attitude toward anything she put forward regarding my behavior
would be accepted positively, and that I would accept her input as impetus to
work harder at being the man and husband she wanted.
I asked her to read a
story called “A New Bride’s Guide to Training Her Husband” and see if the
concepts interested her at all. She did read it, and she did agree to take the
Journey with me.
Four years later our
situation is this; neither of us is willing to go back to a so called 50/50
relationship. She is happier leading,
and I am happier following her lead.
6. Describe your current WLM/FLR situation
a. Chores – I do 95% of the household chores, clothes washing, ironing, bedmaking and changing, vacuuming, sweeping, dusting, meal prep, dishes, bathroom cleaning, yard and house maintenance, car upkeep including gassing her car, etc.
b. Finances/Money - She handles paying the bills, approving major purchases, my pay has been direct deposited into “Her” account for years. Both our names are on all accounts for security sake.
c. Rules/Protocols – I perform “Daily Affirmation” kneeling to her pledging my surrender and submission to her. I have a list of promises to her listed under Love, Honor, Service and Obey that we review each week at a formal review session. We have a “No Excuses, No Exceptions” policy for some rules that are strictly enforced. I have always loved guidelines and rules in my life and am happy to have them back again. She has not initiated any protocol decorum.
d. Punishment and Discipline - She will use corporal punishment on me for violations of “No Excuses, No Exceptions” rules, such as poor attitude toward her and others, poor voice, talking back. She was highly reticent at first, but now she not only sees that physical punishments work well in adapting my behavior, but they also work well for her. For her, she tells me the physical act of controlling me in this way is very empowering and she enjoys that feeling. For me, I find that physically submitting in this way gives me great mental comfort.
e. Chastity/Orgasm Control - Orgasm control was initiated at the outset of our WLM. For a couple of years chastity was honor based. Two years ago she told me to buy a male chastity device, she uses it on me occasionally, but not often.
f. Rituals, Protocols, routine - see “c” above for Rituals and protocols. Some of the routines I perform are: nightly foot massages, bed turn down, morning coffee,
g. Fetishes or kinks – She has none that she has offered up, other than she has found she likes to spank me, and does so on a weekly basis, calling it “Maintenance”. I too like it, as it feeds my need to act out submissively in a very intimate way. I have a lot of kink in me, some of which she has accepted and will occasionally gift me with, such as light bondage, nipple clamping and tease and denial.
7. How public is your WLM/FLR – do others know about it? How do you act in public?
Not public at all, but
we are becoming more overt as our WLM dynamic has become more our “new
normal”. Distinct changes can be seen if
you know us well enough. Example, now I
never accept an invitation to do something without first consulting my wife.
Or, for instance, my neighbors can hear me if I yell from the garage into the
house, “Hey hon, Ok if I run across the street for a minute?” To me it is quite evident who runs the show
when, in a group setting, she will tell me, “You can have two drinks tonight”
or “We will be splitting a meal tonight”.
A bath brush lays on our dresser, there have been a few comments about
it.
8. Do you have kids in the house? If yes, what age group (infant, toddler, teenager, adult)
No kids in the house
9. Describe how the WLM/FLR works with kids in the house N/A
10. What are some of challenges you face in your WLM/FLR?
The challenge of
staying submissive to her more and more of the time is always in front of
me. We do have our rituals and routines
of weekly reviews, weekly corporal discipline maintenance sessions, and daily
affirmations to help me with this. And,
I believe, these things help to empower her as the leader of our marriage as
well. My personal biggest challenge is
to accept that my wife’s “need” to be dominant is not as persistent in her life
as is my “need” to be submissive in mine.
Becoming more vulnerable to her, more open regarding my needs as her sub
has been challenging, largely because I do not want her to think of our
relationship as more work for her, but rather more relaxing and fun for
her.
During our Weekly
Review’s being consistent in my promise to not contradict or defend myself when
she gives me feedback regarding my previous weeks actions has been very key in
reviving her “Voice” in our marriage. It
has taken a good three years of being extremely consistent in this area to get
her to fully accept that I was going to “walk the talk” of a submissive. Giving up the right to override her decisions
and follow her course has not been too big of an issue because we see things
very similarly, but to actually put this into practice also takes diligence on
my part.
One of the rules she
has put into place is my need to advise her of my activity during my “free”
time. Example, I used to just run across
the street to see, or help, my neighbor.
He is a very good friend and we do things as couples frequently. Now, it is my responsibility to ask her if it
would be okay to head over, instead of just going or telling her I was going
over. Another example, a friend calls me
and asks me to go to a ball game with him, in the past, if nothing was on the
calendar, I would accept the invitation, now I ask permission to go. This change has been one of the most
difficult for me to mentally accept and comply to. I love that she felt the need to initiate
this rule. And I feel proud of myself every time I comply. But it is to me one
of the most humbling, and most public rules that I am responsible for
obeying. The fact that it is her rule,
one she piut in place makes it an even greater demand, and an even greater
submissive act.
11. What things do you like the most about your WLM/FLR?
11. What things do you like the most about your WLM/FLR?
She is much happier,
and I am much happier too. I feel like I
am more in my “element” being surrendered and submissive to her. Surrendering was key, telling her that I
surrendered was humbling, yet very satisfying to me. I love that our communication has improved
1000 %. I love our weekly reviews, and
after four years of doing them, if we skip a week, we both miss this specific
time we spend together. I love that my
wife’s health has improved. She is a
very A Type personality, and since we have been on our Journey her sleep
patterns have greatly improved along with other specific medical conditions
that are typically attributed to A Types who internalize their stress. Reducing her stress level has been joy to
watch. A better relationship, with
better physical and mental health, has made for a better and enriched sex life.
12. How have things evolved or changed with you and as a couple in your WLM/FLR over time since starting the WLM/FLR? How does this compare to how you were prior to the WLM/FLR?
I believe that we, as
a couple, have both evolved into our WLM roles.
Prior to entering into a formal WLM we had never discussed our roles to
each other as man and wife. This seems
rather odd, but true.
When we became parents
we did discuss our roles as Mom and Dad, and we did discuss how we needed to
make decisions together regarding parenting.
To ensure we were both on the same page in regards to raising our son
and daughter, we often sat down together and discussed parenting. Something we
never did regarding our respective roles as a couple. I believe this became quite glaring as we
became empty nesters, and we had no “Couples Baseline” to fall back upon.
We now have definitive
roles as a couple. I, as her sub, have definitive rules and benchmarks to
follow and exceed. She, as the dominant,
has the greater voice in the relationship and she has learned to trust my
commitment to supporting her decisions.
We work well together this way.
As parents we were told that we exceptionally good together, (even our
kids have told us that!), we were united and consistent. As a couple, we are blessed with a lot of
great friends, we are very social, and we are told that we always look
happy. After a few years of difficult
times together our WLM has helped us re-solidify that persona as a couple. And I would venture to say that she would
agree with me that we have never been happier.
13. If there were one or two things you could change about your WLM/FLR would they be?
13. If there were one or two things you could change about your WLM/FLR would they be?
As you get older, time
becomes more and more precious. The time
it has taken for us to get to this level in our relationship is sadly
gone. So, the time remaining for us to
benefit from the things we have learned about ourselves is what is
important. What I wish for in the future
would be for her to be more expressive in what she wants to do together, so we
can get it done without future regrets. If I could be better at empowering her
every day possibly she would become forward with what it is she wants.
14. Do you have any advice for others who are starting out in a WLM/FLR?
For the male, if you
sincerely believe you would be happier with her leading, are confident in her
abilities to lead, and are willing to walk the talk of a submissive, then man
up and have a discussion with her. If you
have never discussed your roles in your relationship, even if you don’t
eventually move into a WLM/FLR, I recommend you do so. In either case, be humble and be vulnerable,
but be you. I can say truthfully that I feel
more manly, not less; more loving, not less; a better lover, not less; more
humble, not less; and much happier since asking her to lead.
For the female, a man
who surrenders and submits himself to you has taken a big leap off the
vulnerability bridge. I can’t speak for
your man, but for me it was a very nervous time. Be kind, ask him questions, keep your
communication very open. If you are
interested and/or receptive to exploring the lifestyle, ask him for his input,
and do some research on your own.
Concentrate on what it is that interests you the most and see where that
leads. Be consistent, be you.
For you both, there is
a ton of male fantasy material about women dominating men, most of it is simply
sexual fodder for the masturbating male, (and maybe even for some women).
However, there is literature that can be quite helpful. My wife and I have together read a few books
on beginning and living in a female led relationship. For her, reading about FLR’s showed to her
that others are involved in this lifestyle in a very real way. The literature gave her a sense of direction,
a bit of a road map for our new Journey. It was a confidence builder for her,
and we continue to follow a few lifestyle blogs that are dedicated
WLM/FLR.
For me, researching
and discussing what surrendering and submitting to her really was going to be
like was very enlightening. I was able
to more easily push the femdom fantasy away and embrace the benefits of submission
to the woman I love. We have been able
to more openly discuss what our relationship goals and aspirations are for now
and for the future. We use the information gleaned from the
internet blogs and books as talking points during review sessions, dismissing
some as not for us, some as things we would like to try, and some things become
integrated into our life right away.
Hi Bob
ReplyDeleteGreat insight. Thanks for the post. Can you elaborate how easily ( or not) your wife was able to transition to be the Leader? And how much was emphasized or changed with orgasm control/sex?
Seems like it's going very well.
- Mike
You make a really good point about openness that can really help someone just jumping in to a WLM. You can beat around the bush and use stealth submission, but until you have the "talk" with your wife it's really hard to make anything take root. You need to open up and tell her your feelings of submission to her. You'll practice and rehearse it a thousand times. It will be very humiliating while your doing it, but once it is out there it will be a weight of your shoulders. My wife took a long times considering it and I never pushed her for an answer. Like you, neither one of us would even consider going back. Take care and stay safe-Alan
ReplyDeleteHi Mike. Thank you for your kind words. It has been a slow progress for her to take the lead. It has taken some time for her to find her "voice: and I think more importantly for her to trust that when she does use her voice that I will be compliant. She has taken things slower than I would have hoped, but we are much further down the road than I ever expected. Just yesterday I told her in a text that I believed I had a lot more to give her if she wanted to take it. She replied with a smiley face! Love her!!
ReplyDeleteI turned myself over to her, this included 100% of decisions regarding sex. Whether she denies it allows me to orgasm is totally her decision. She latched onto controlling this aspect of our lives very fast, and loves it. But, I believe without my honoring all my commitments to her, beyond sex, just controlling our sexual lives would not be enough for her, or me. I have tried very hard, sometimes failing, to live up to promises to love, honor, serve and obey her.
Good luck to you two on your journey. I highly recommend it to any man who has submissive tendencies toward the partner in his life. Bob
Thank you Alan! Stay safe, have fun, enjoy life! Bob
ReplyDeleteBob: you mentioned that your wife had benefitted from reading several books; any specific suggestions you'd be willing to share? Thanks in advance!
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