1. Who am I (name, sex, approx. age, where you live)?
Mz Kaylee
Female
In my 40s
Northeast US
2. My position in the
relationship (submissive, dominant, or switch? If switch, do you favor one over
the other?
Dominant
3.
What is your current marriage status and WLM/FLR situation (Married and in a WLM, not married and in a
FLR, not married but seeking a FLR, etc.)? What is status of your WLM
(Beginners, Mature, Somewhere in the middle)
Married in a WLM.
We have been in a WLM for 15+ years so very mature.
4. When did you first
discover your submissive/dominant desires?
A few years into our marriage, my husband brought up the idea of me
dominating him and controlling his orgasms. I did not have a strong desire to dominate
him but was open to the idea of doing it, mostly to satisfy his desires. Back
then, I would not have considered myself a naturally dominant person. It was
like that for the first 5 to 7 years. Then things started to click with and I
realized how much I liked it and was benefiting from it. It was at that point
that I embraced the WLM concept and there was no turning back.
5. Describe how WLM/FLR was
introduced into your relationship? Explain your experiences of how you went
from discovering submission/domination up to the point of being in a WLM/FLR?
My husband asked
me to dominate him and take control of his orgasms. I was not sure of what I
was getting into but I agreed. At first it was just fun and fantasy for me. He
wanted it to be 24/7 but I had a hard time with that, mostly because I was not
sure what to do but also because I did not want to be “in charge” 24/7. Funny
thing is that while I may not have been dominant all the time, I always
remained in control of his orgasms. From the day he asked me to dominate him up
until now he always had to ask permission to orgasm and that will never change
going forward. In the first few years there were times where I would go several
months without really dominating him so I am sure there were times where he
broke the rule but the expectation that he had to ask for permission to orgasm
was always there.
After a few years
he asked if I would be interested in a formal WLM in which we both formally
acknowledge that I was in control and he was not my equal in the marriage. By
then I knew enough that it was a good idea and I agreed. It still took me
another few years before I fully embraced his submission and my roles as the
dominant leader. As noted in my previous response it took 5 to 7 years for
things to click for me and to fully embrace the WLM. During that time it was a
bit of a roller coaster with lots of ups and downs and frustrations. Early on
it was a lot of him giving me ideas and telling me what to do. As I gradually learned what he liked and
started to really understand the submissive dynamic and mindset, I became more
confident and needed less input from him. Now I am fully in control and he does
not tell me what to do. He still gives me some ideas and I will use them sometimes
but I am in complete control.
6. Describe your current
WLM/FLR situation
a.
Chores
He does pretty much all the chores inside and outside the house. If they are
not done timely or to my expectations, he is punished or disciplined. I still cook because I enjoy it. He always
takes care of the car for me including putting gas in and any maintenance. When
we are together, he always drives me. If I have errands to do I usually make
him drive me around.
b.
Finances/Money I control how the money is spent. He has a weekly allowance and must ask permission
if he wants to make a big purchase. I of course spend whatever I want. The
money he earns belongs to me. He pays
all the bills and manages the bank accounts with my oversight. I like it that
way because it is less work for me and he is very good with handling finances.
c.
Rules/Protocols There are lots of rules and protocols for him. It was not always that
way. They have developed over many years as our WLM evolved and shaped. In the
early years I don’t think he or I could have handled all the rules and
protocols that are in place now. It would have been too overwhelming. However,
as he matured and grew in his submission he was able to take on more chores and
more rules. It’s interesting how each year new things are added but very few
things go away 😊. Some examples of rules: he is not allowed
to sit in my chair in the family room, he must ask permission to go out with
friends, he must hand wash the panties that he wears, and he may not speak in a
negative tone to me.
d.
Punishment and Discipline Absolutely! He is punished when he is bad,
which is not that often because he is trained well and wants to be a good boy
for me. Punishments usually involve corner time and taking privileges away such
as sports and time with his friends. I do not punish with spankings. Regular
discipline involves weekly reviews of his behavior and chores. He does 15
minutes of corner time every week as a reminder of his submission to me and to
help him stay focused on serving me. If anything in his weekly review comes up
negative, his corner time is extended. In the past I used spanking for his
weekly review and discipline (much different than spanking as a punishment-not
as harsh).
e.
Chastity/Orgasm Control I control his orgasms. He must ask for
permission to orgasm. He does not wear a chastity device. It is very random
when I allow an orgasm. Usually he goes 2 -3 months between orgasms. I love to
tease him to the brink of orgasm! It is exciting for me to see him strain and
struggle and try not to orgasm.
f.
Rituals, Protocols,
routines Massages and baths are ritualistic. For
both he is naked or in panties. When he massages me, he must kiss every body
part before he massages it. When done, he kneels beside me quietly and waits to
be released or for my next order. For baths he runs the bath for me, lights
candles, and gets my robe and towel ready. He kneels beside the tub and starts
by shaving my legs and then washes my body. When done he dries my body and puts
my robe on me. We also have a weekly
routine for his review/discipline session. He must shower and shave (both face
and between his legs) in preparation. He stands before me naked while I review
his “performance” during the week and set the expectations for the next week.
He is disciplined or punished if he did not meet expectations in any area in
the past week. Then he massages me and if I am in the mood, I allow him to
pleasure me.
g.
Fetishes or kinks He wears panties every day and sleeps naked at night. He has a special
pair that he must wear during and after punishments and a special frilly pair
that he wears on weekends. Nothing else out of the ordinary.
7. How public is your WLM/FLR
– do others know about it? How do you act in public?
We do not openly discuss our WLM in public but it is so ingrained in our
lifestyle that I know others notice. I have had several friends that have commented,
“he is trained well,” and one even referred to him in front of others as a
submissive person. My mom has commented that she loves that she tells him what
to do and he does it. They all know that he is wrapped around my finger but I
have not talked with anyone, including my family, about our formal WLM
arrangement. I also do not overtly dominate him in public but there have been a
few times where my domination with him has shown through just as a natural
reaction from me.
8. Do you have kids in the
house? If yes, what age group (infant, toddler, teenager, adult)
Yes. Teenagers.
9. Describe how the WLM/FLR
works with kids in the house
It’s a similar dynamic as to what I described in question 7 above. I am
not overtly dominant in front of the kids and they have never been told that
their Dad is submissive to me. However,
they know from example that I am in charge. Our WLM started prior to having
kids so the dynamic has existed ever since they were born. To them it is just
normal to see their Dad cleaning the bathroom, doing laundry, ironing clothes,
etc. It is normal to see their Dad “jump” when I tell him to do something and
it is normal to see me reprimanding him and him not arguing back. The kids do notice that my husband
works very hard for me. My husband has told them that he enjoys pampering me
and treating me like a queen.
10. What are some of
challenges you face in your WLM/FLR?
The biggest challenge over the years has been exerting control
consistently and to a degree that quells his craving to be dominated. There are
some women who are just naturally dominant and demanding and so they don’t have
this problem. That is not me. It was very hard in the early years. However,
overtime as I became comfortable in the dominant role and learned techniques to
control him, it became easier. I’ve put a lot of rules and expectations in
place that have created a very structured environment for him, that makes him
feel controlled without me having to be watching over him every minute of the
day. Having weekly review sessions and corner time also helps. We are in a good
routine now but there are still times where I get distracted and am not as strict
or controlling with him and he starts to slack off on chores and he gets a
little grumpy. The good thing is I am now quick to notice the signs of his
neediness and nip it in the bud before it becomes a big negative. Usually I
start with a punishment for his bad behavior and then up my strictness in his
review sessions.
11. What things do you like
the most about your WLM/FLR?
Hmmm. There are so many things: No chores for me, no arguing from him, I
give him an order and he responds immediately, no putting gas in my car, hot
coffee served to me every morning, and I get to orgasm whenever I want. I could
go on and on. It is great to live like a Goddess. We have also grown very close
together as a result of the WLM. We communicate with each other much more frequently
and are more open about our feelings. I’ve always had a wonderful connection
with my husband but the WLM significantly deepened the connection and intimacy
with us.
12. How have things evolved or
changed with you and as a couple in your WLM/FLR over time since starting the
WLM/FLR? How does this compare to how you were prior to the WLM/FLR?
Things have
changed a lot over the years. In the beginning it was just fantasy fun play.
There was a lot of uncertainty from me on how to act and he topped from the
bottom a lot. I was doing it mostly to satisfy him. It felt more like role
playing. Now it is an integral part of our lifestyle and I am clearly in
control and want to be in control. Instead of me doing it to satisfy his needs
and desires, the focus is on him serving me and satisfying my needs and desires
(and in turn that satisfies his needs and desires). There are much more rules
for him and higher expectations. He is serving me and following my rules every
day of his life. He is a much better servant to me now from all the training
and discipline over the years. He knows what I like and what to do rather than
me having to tell him what to do all the time. Our sex life is so much more fun
and interesting 😊. As a person, I am much more confident and have a
higher self-esteem as a result of our WLM. Dominating and controlling him does not feel awkward anymore. It comes
more naturally to me now. I also notice that I am more dominant when dealing
with other men. It truly has been a life changing experience for me.
13. If there were one or two
things you could change about your WLM/FLR would they be?
If that question was asked several years ago, I’d probably have a few
things to change. However, we’ve been in our WLM for so long that I’ve had the
time to shape it just the way I want it and mold my husband into my perfect
obedient slave. WLM is great right now! We are so in tune with each other. If I
could change one thing in the past it would be that I wish I figured out the submissive
dynamic much quicker and embraced my dominance and his submission much sooner.
That is why I started my blog – to help others get there quicker.
14.
Do you have any advice
for others who are starting out in a WLM/FLR?
Have fun with it and
understand that WLM is a lifetime journey. Expect challenges and setbacks but
never give up. Learn from others who are in a WLM/FLR but know that every
relationship is different and so what works for someone else may not work for
you. Stick with the things that really resonate with you and your core values.
15. Is there anything else you
what like to share?
WLM has been a
great journey for us as couple. My husband was very patient and persistent with
me in the first few years. I think that was key in keeping the journey going.
Without him continually encouraging me forward and showing me how I would
benefit from it, I probably would not have stuck with it. He gave a lot of
appreciation for the little things I did early on, which helped me understand
what he liked and it also gave me more confidence and desire to do more. I am
glad he was persistent and did not give up. As noted in an earlier response,
WLM has been life changing for me (and for him to). Our marriage has never been
stronger and we are having a great time with each other. The journey continues…….
Excellent history!
ReplyDeleteI think we have many similarities:
I drive my wife nearly everywhere, sleep naked, chores and cleaning.
Also the beginning is the same with her regarding how to structure a WLM. She's trying to find ways to be dominant, but I feel like I top from the bottom with my suggestions.
Foremost, she definitely enjoys the orgasms control aspect.
As you mentioned, there were times she was distracted or felt like she wasn't keeping up with the arrangement for a while. At least that's what I thought. I once took upon myself to have an orgasm during sex. She thought it was an accident.
I confessed it was not and was intentional because I didn't think she cared or wasn't into the WLM.
I was quickly corrected and reprimanded. She was upset and said not to ever let that happen again.
That's when I realized she's getting into this.
I think she's also trying to find ways to be dominant. I've asked but she says I've doing all she's asked of me.
- Mike
Kaylee
ReplyDeleteI am totally inspired by your blog.
I have been married for 34 years and around two years ago, my husband suggested to me the idea of a wife led marriage. We both decided to give it a try and made a start.
In your profile, you talk of the challenges you faced early on, in exerting control consistently.....
"and to a degree that quells his craving to be dominated. There are some women who are just naturally dominant and demanding and so they don’t have this problem. That is not me. It was very hard in the early years"....
This could easily be me talking.
I am not a naturally dominant person, my husband has always been the dominant one and this is why I am struggling with moving forward just now. After 2 years we keep going backwards.
We have made progress, my husband is enjoying carrying out all of the housework on my instruction, he has never been one to shy away from this to be honest, but in the last 2 years he has fully embraced this aspect of our WLM.
I am treated like a Queen in every way in our house.
Sex whilst always good throughout our marriage, is now better than its ever been.
It is the psychological side that I am struggling with. I am just not dominant enough even though I know he craves this. I just cannot seem to get over this hurdle at the moment and so what happens is, he then gets frustrated and resentful and we end up stalling.
Stalling, by the way is his word not mine.
I have read about topping from the bottom and my husband says he is doing everything he can to avoid this. I know he is struggling with that in exactly the same way that I am struggling with being dominant.
Vivienne
I am glad you are giving it a try. It is a lot to adjust to. Something that helped me early on was designating one weekend a month as "kinky weekend." That was the weekend where I would plan on being really dominant to him. For me it was just role playing and fantasy fun. It's a little easier to be dominant when you think of yourself as role playing. It was awkward at first but the more I did it the more comfortable and fun it became. Eventually, my dominance became more real and less fantasy and it extended beyond the weekend. Overtime the kinky weekends were not needed anymore.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I think topping from the bottom is acceptable in your situation. It's a way for you to learn what he likes. However, make sure you read things on your own (like my blog) so you can get a complete and unbiased view of what a WLM should be. Once your confidence and knowledge are strong, then you cutoff the topping .
ReplyDeleteKaylee
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for responding.
I am going to try and make things much more structured for him rather than just drifting along and we are going to have our very first review session this weekend. I am a bit nervous but I am going to include some corner time aswell as this will help to reinforce his submission to me. I want him to feel controlled and I think I will get as much pleasure out of that as he will.
I am also going to turn things around and treat his topping from the bottom in a more positive way. I agree that it will give me an opportunity to learn more about what he likes. We could have some fun with that ��
Vivienne
You are moving in a the right direction. Having structure helps a lot. This is great to hear. Sometimes it is challenging to keep the structure in place so don't make it too structured at first. Make sure it's doable and not too much work for you. If you do find yourself drifting off course, don't get discouraged. It still happens to me every now and then. When I realize it is happening, I just refocus myself and get right back to the structure.
DeleteI would love to hear how things go with your review session.
Hi Mz Kaylee. Thank you for your site and the wonderful information. I’d love to move in this direction with my wife but she has been resistant so far. I try to do many things for her and I’m sure I can do more. The things I do, she seems to be more comfortable with me doing. There are still many things that she asks for and says please and thank you all the time. I know it takes time and is a big change in thinking. I try to be patient but as you can guess I’d like things to progress a little more. Thank you again.
ReplyDeleteChris
Mz Kaylee, I am inspired by your profile. There are many similarities with my marriage. My wife is naturally dominant but vanilla when it comes to kink. I enjoy being submissive and it feels very sexual to me. My wife wants to be in charge but it isn't sexual for her. I introuduced the WLM and orgasm control to her 2 years ago. In the beginning she didn't get it and wasn't into it. Our WLM has evolved and our marriage is much better. She is more happy and we seldom argue anymore. She now understands that tease and denial makes me horny all the time but also makes me motivated to please her.
ReplyDeleteI think she just needs more time to get to where you and your husband are. The good thing is that she wants obedience and control of the marriage. I realize I need to be a better sub and put less importance on the sexual aspect (not easy to do with tease and long term denial)
I think it would help me to complete your profile questions with well thought out answers
mk
Mz Kaylee I’m enjoying your blog and all the great interaction. We are like many others in that have tried to start a WLM multiple times over the years and have ended up side tracked. Frustrating on both sides. Your ideas of structure could be very key to us really getting restarted. Think this would fit well with my wife and require little physical effort daily from her. In the past I think that it may have seemed like a lot of work for my wife with little reward and I was too focused on the sexual portion of the relationship. As we age we change and the dynamics do to. I’m starting out slowly again and have taken some of the thoughts from the blog, which are working. I don’t have the same expectations I did years ago. Thanks for the great blog and how you lead it with common sense and reasonable expectations.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment. I am glad to see you are sticking with it and changing your approach to be more focused on her. Good luck!
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