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Tuesday, December 17, 2019
Just for fun: Agree or Disagree
Dealing with submissive men is like dealing with a 5-Year old
Every time my wife has offered an opinion on the issue (with respect to our own children, ages 6 and 8) she has always complimented me on being much more obedient, responsive to discipline, and respectful. (Which says more about their consistent disobedience than my consistent obedience!)
Men are often emotionally immature relative to women, so I understand the premise of the humor, but I do take some sincere pride in not adding to the stress of parenting by being as courteous and compliant as I can at the end of her day. The poor woman does NOT need the burden of caring for a third child, and I'd feel very much like a failure in my role if she regarded me that way after ten years of marriage (and hundreds of encounters with a riding crop!)
My wife will tell you that yes I'm a five year old at times. The spankings she gives when I act like such, she insures that over her lap I will be acting just like a naughty five year getting a spanking. Jack
Disagree... If (when) it is, it's just a game and it takes two to play it...
In the early days of my submissiveness (which was purely sexually motivated at the time) I tried to provoke my Wife to punish me with hard spanking by deliberately disobeying Her (intended GAME). I masturbated without permission, which was already strictly forbidden at the time (not a game). She didn't buy it, I was punished to one week of zero sexual contacts, which was quickly extended to two and then three weeks because I protested and talked back (not a game at all!). I learned quickly that She meant business with the no masturbation rule. She still does.
You guys are cute trying to defend yourselves on this one. I think many of the ladies will have a different opinion. I hope to hear from some of you. Tom,I was laughing while reading your comment (in good fun) because your behavior described above actually made the case that supports the "Agree" column.
Hello Mz Kaylee. I understand what you mean. My bratty behavior in that case was indeed one of a naughty little boy, no doubt. But it was just my invitation to kinky play. Which my Wife clearly rejected. And I should have known better than provoke Her like that, knowing how strongly She felt about my self-pleasuring. Everything from that point on, including my reactions and consequences were no longer playing, I knew I blew it and I deserved the punishment. And I didn't enjoy it one bit.
In real life FLR I don't do stunts like that unless I know She is in a playfull mood. I am submissive and I cherish my Woman's dominance and I don't think I act like a 5-years old.
Men shouldn’t make their wives and girlfriends feel like they are dealing with children, and women obviously shouldn’t treat their partners the same way they would treat a child, but there are some helpful similarities to keep in mind. As with a 5-year-old, women are free to shape and correct their submissive partners’ behaviour by taking away privileges or punishing them in other ways, they don’t have to treat them like they are above punishments they might find infantilizing, and most importantly, they don’t have to negotiate with them.
An woman I was seeing would say I act like a little boy at times and I would just smile. I decided to see what she would do it i really acted like a little boy, I walked into the front room naked, and said it this being a naughty little boy. She smiled, soon had a grip on my arm and to the bedroom we went. I knew others could hear, that hairbrush landed hard and fast on my bare bottom. Are you a naughty little boy she asked while spanking me, Yes I said and I'm sorry. Oh you will be sorry when I finish with this spanking. She finally stood me up, and sternly said, get to the front room and face the wall my naughty little boy and I did as told. There have been other spankings, all really hurt but I sure enjoy being a naughty little boy, and i think she enjoys giving me the spankings. A couple or so days later our sex life is really good even though my bottom is still sore from the spanking.
Disagree. Women just say that to make us feel bad about who we are. The shame gets us to capitulate to your demands. There seems to be a widely held belief that men are just fundamentally “wrong” or inherently “flawed” by nature and that we need to be changed so we will conform to what your gender thinks life is supposed to look like, which you characterize as “mature” so you can disparagingly hang the “immature” label on us.
Then after we feel bad enough for long enough we have our “mid life crisis” in a hopeless attempt to recapture what we have lost by living how you think we should for decades.
You then end the game and call “checkmate” by inevitably outliving us and ultimatum getting the last laugh.
Hello Mz. Kaylee . I could not help but notice the contrast in the last two posts ...... Lol.
I guess I would have agree with your comment especially in a new FLR . The wife is certainly not prepared for the dynamic change that occurs when a man experiences his first taste of dominance . It reminds me of the the signs in the the forest that say “ Don’t feed the Bears”. What most people do not understand is that a taste is never enough for the hungry bear or husband with submissive longings . The man is so desperate for his next experience he forgets all sense of balance and acts out like a child in need of attention. Unfortunately at this point most women are clueless and have no understanding of the power they have inherited . So yes, as she feeds his desires he turns into a five year old in constant need of her attention. Change can only occur as she matures and understands that she is empowered to accept the attention of any number of men so acting like a five year old may not be in his best interest. Lol
My Mother told me no matter who you marry they will act like a five year old at times, it is just something males do. She said the remendy is to spank them. I remember this when shortly after being married my wonderful husband acted is such a way. He thought I was joking when I said I was going to give him a spanking. He undressed, pointed to his manhood, I put him across my lap and it was not long he knew I was serious. When I stood him up, he was limp, rubbing. I called and told my Mother about the spanking, how good it felt, and his reaction, she was glad I gave him a spanking. Today my wonderful husbands pleads, begs, promise to be good when he is going to get a spanking. The last spanking he tried to get out of it because my Mother was visting, did not work. He put on some show over my lap while my Mother watched and approved. He no sooner was off my lap and facing the wall he said something stupid to my Mom. Well once he get off her lap he was a real mess and took sometime to get himself undercontrol. We both enjoyed his very red bottom.
I expect a number of you will disagree with me on this. It is totally my experience and I respect that it may not be that of others. The "mother little boy" dynamic" is completely there with my husband and I. I have increasingly realized this. I often use a sort of "maternal tone" with him and in truth I believe he finds it calming/orienting in some manner that I have not completely yet figured out. In private it is a full on "thing" between us. In public I am (sometimes) a bit more careful about it.
I agree with you that there is something very special in this dynamic. My wife and I are so totally bonded when I am suckling at her breast. It has helped strengthen a very strong marriage even further. There are no diapers or anything like that involved but my time at her boob is very precious to me. Our sex life is totally geared to her and on her terms and this is one thing she gives in return. She doesn't mind me being latched on but it is more for me. Quite often it ends with an even bigger treat for me when I am allowed to lick her to an orgasm. For some men, nursing will lead to an orgasm for them, but my wife firmly believes that there should be no association between nursing and male orgasms. I am always locked up and am not allowed to even touch myself.
One way my wife keeps me under control is by nursing. I am given time at her boob to let me gather my thoughts and re-centre my emotions, especially if I have spent a long time in chastity and without an orgasm (nine weeks and counting!) So I guess she sees me as significantly less than a five year old! Jen
When I first started to explore my submissive tendencies, the emotions that I experienced were very intense and I had difficulty not focusing on my own feelings and desires. It was a selfish state to be in, and somewhat childish. Selfish men can be very childish at times. I still get overwhelmed with my feelings and regress to an immature state sometimes. I don't think that this is necessarily specific to men, however. As time has gone on, I have learned to have better self-control. I have also learned that true submission is putting my partner's needs, feelings, and desires first, and only giving in to my own when hers are met and she gives me permission. I have matured and continue to mature and have better self-control. But there are still moments when I slip up, and act like (and should probably be treated like) a 5 year old.
Every time my wife has offered an opinion on the issue (with respect to our own children, ages 6 and 8) she has always complimented me on being much more obedient, responsive to discipline, and respectful. (Which says more about their consistent disobedience than my consistent obedience!)
ReplyDeleteMen are often emotionally immature relative to women, so I understand the premise of the humor, but I do take some sincere pride in not adding to the stress of parenting by being as courteous and compliant as I can at the end of her day. The poor woman does NOT need the burden of caring for a third child, and I'd feel very much like a failure in my role if she regarded me that way after ten years of marriage (and hundreds of encounters with a riding crop!)
Fun: sure
ReplyDeleteSerious: Unless that's your kink get another one
Five-year-olds are pretty much over the habit of running around the house naked. Submissive men - not so much!
ReplyDeletedisagree, its a relationship between adults
ReplyDeleteMy wife will tell you that yes I'm a five year old at times. The spankings she gives when I act like such, she insures that over her lap I will be acting just like a naughty five year getting a spanking. Jack
ReplyDeleteDisagree...
ReplyDeleteIf (when) it is, it's just a game and it takes two to play it...
In the early days of my submissiveness (which was purely sexually motivated at the time) I tried to provoke my Wife to punish me with hard spanking by deliberately disobeying Her (intended GAME). I masturbated without permission, which was already strictly forbidden at the time (not a game). She didn't buy it, I was punished to one week of zero sexual contacts, which was quickly extended to two and then three weeks because I protested and talked back (not a game at all!). I learned quickly that She meant business with the no masturbation rule. She still does.
No!
ReplyDeleteNo no no no no no no no no!
That is so unfair!
I won't vote 'agree' or 'disagree'. I won't I won't I won't. And you can't make me!
You guys are cute trying to defend yourselves on this one. I think many of the ladies will have a different opinion. I hope to hear from some of you.
ReplyDeleteTom,I was laughing while reading your comment (in good fun) because your behavior described above actually made the case that supports the "Agree" column.
Hello Mz Kaylee. I understand what you mean. My bratty behavior in that case was indeed one of a naughty little boy, no doubt. But it was just my invitation to kinky play. Which my Wife clearly rejected. And I should have known better than provoke Her like that, knowing how strongly She felt about my self-pleasuring. Everything from that point on, including my reactions and consequences were no longer playing, I knew I blew it and I deserved the punishment. And I didn't enjoy it one bit.
DeleteIn real life FLR I don't do stunts like that unless I know She is in a playfull mood. I am submissive and I cherish my Woman's dominance and I don't think I act like a 5-years old.
Men shouldn’t make their wives and girlfriends feel like they are dealing with children, and women obviously shouldn’t treat their partners the same way they would treat a child, but there are some helpful similarities to keep in mind. As with a 5-year-old, women are free to shape and correct their submissive partners’ behaviour by taking away privileges or punishing them in other ways, they don’t have to treat them like they are above punishments they might find infantilizing, and most importantly, they don’t have to negotiate with them.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't say childish. Men just enter that sub space which renders them devoid of all rational thinking.
ReplyDeleteAn woman I was seeing would say I act like a little boy at times and I would just smile. I decided to see what she would do it i really acted like a little boy, I walked into the front room naked, and said it this being a naughty little boy. She smiled, soon had a grip on my arm and to the bedroom we went. I knew others could hear, that hairbrush landed hard and fast on my bare bottom. Are you a naughty little boy she asked while spanking me, Yes I said and I'm sorry. Oh you will be sorry when I finish with this spanking. She finally stood me up, and sternly said, get to the front room and face the wall my naughty little boy and I did as told. There have been other spankings, all really hurt but I sure enjoy being a naughty little boy, and i think she enjoys giving me the spankings. A couple or so days later our sex life is really good even though my bottom is still sore from the spanking.
ReplyDeleteDisagree. Women just say that to make us feel bad about who we are. The shame gets us to capitulate to your demands. There seems to be a widely held belief that men are just fundamentally “wrong” or inherently “flawed” by nature and that we need to be changed so we will conform to what your gender thinks life is supposed to look like, which you characterize as “mature” so you can disparagingly hang the “immature” label on us.
ReplyDeleteThen after we feel bad enough for long enough we have our “mid life crisis” in a hopeless attempt to recapture what we have lost by living how you think we should for decades.
You then end the game and call “checkmate” by inevitably outliving us and ultimatum getting the last laugh.
Hello Mz. Kaylee . I could not help but notice the contrast in the last two posts ...... Lol.
ReplyDeleteI guess I would have agree with your comment especially in a new FLR . The wife is certainly not prepared for the dynamic change that occurs when a man experiences his first taste of dominance . It reminds me of the the signs in the the forest that say “ Don’t feed the Bears”. What most people do not understand is that a taste is never enough for the hungry bear or husband with submissive longings . The man is so desperate for his next experience he forgets all sense of balance and acts out like a child in need of attention. Unfortunately at this point most women are clueless and have no understanding of the power they have inherited . So yes, as she feeds his desires he turns into a five year old in constant need of her attention. Change can only occur as she matures and understands that she is empowered to accept the attention of any number of men so acting like a five year old may not be in his best interest. Lol
John Dalton
My Mother told me no matter who you marry they will act like a five year old at times, it is just something males do. She said the remendy is to spank them. I remember this when shortly after being married my wonderful husband acted is such a way. He thought I was joking when I said I was going to give him a spanking. He undressed, pointed to his manhood, I put him across my lap and it was not long he knew I was serious. When I stood him up, he was limp, rubbing. I called and told my Mother about the spanking, how good it felt, and his reaction, she was glad I gave him a spanking. Today my wonderful husbands pleads, begs, promise to be good when he is going to get a spanking. The last spanking he tried to get out of it because my Mother was visting, did not work. He put on some show over my lap while my Mother watched and approved. He no sooner was off my lap and facing the wall he said something stupid to my Mom. Well once he get off her lap he was a real mess and took sometime to get himself undercontrol. We both enjoyed his very red bottom.
ReplyDeleteI expect a number of you will disagree with me on this. It is totally my experience and I respect that it may not be that of others. The "mother little boy" dynamic" is completely there with my husband and I. I have increasingly realized this. I often use a sort of "maternal tone" with him and in truth I believe he finds it calming/orienting in some manner that I have not completely yet figured out. In private it is a full on "thing" between us. In public I am (sometimes) a bit more careful about it.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that there is something very special in this dynamic. My wife and I are so totally bonded when I am suckling at her breast. It has helped strengthen a very strong marriage even further. There are no diapers or anything like that involved but my time at her boob is very precious to me. Our sex life is totally geared to her and on her terms and this is one thing she gives in return. She doesn't mind me being latched on but it is more for me. Quite often it ends with an even bigger treat for me when I am allowed to lick her to an orgasm. For some men, nursing will lead to an orgasm for them, but my wife firmly believes that there should be no association between nursing and male orgasms. I am always locked up and am not allowed to even touch myself.
DeleteOne way my wife keeps me under control is by nursing. I am given time at her boob to let me gather my thoughts and re-centre my emotions, especially if I have spent a long time in chastity and without an orgasm (nine weeks and counting!) So I guess she sees me as significantly less than a five year old! Jen
ReplyDeleteI actually do exactly that (nursing) with my own husband. It is amazingly effective in many ways.
Delete-Mary
When I first started to explore my submissive tendencies, the emotions that I experienced were very intense and I had difficulty not focusing on my own feelings and desires. It was a selfish state to be in, and somewhat childish. Selfish men can be very childish at times. I still get overwhelmed with my feelings and regress to an immature state sometimes. I don't think that this is necessarily specific to men, however. As time has gone on, I have learned to have better self-control. I have also learned that true submission is putting my partner's needs, feelings, and desires first, and only giving in to my own when hers are met and she gives me permission. I have matured and continue to mature and have better self-control. But there are still moments when I slip up, and act like (and should probably be treated like) a 5 year old.
ReplyDeleteI agree.
ReplyDelete