The most extreme step of financial control is to cutoff the husband completely from all money matters, bank accounts, and assets. As crazy as it sounds, many submissive guys would love this because without money and assets they are powerless and become dependent on the wife. This powerless and helplessness is a huge erotic rush for submissive men. However, for the mast majority of us, this is not a practical approach. I actually think it is a bit of a "cop out" for the submissive. There is stress and work associated with managing the finances. Why should he be freed from that and leave it all up to the Female? Shouldn't a good submissive take on all the grunt work of paying bills? I also believe it is a risky financial approach because in the event anything happens to you (the wife), he will not have immediate access to money in order to take care of you or himself. In the unfortunate event of death, he will be faced with challenges and complications to gain access to cash and assets, which not a good situation for a grieving spouse. I am amazed that there are some women who advocate for this approach. Perhaps they are not thinking about the long-term consequences. As the leader of the WLM it is your duty to lead in a way that is in the best interest of the marriage and therefore, in my opinion, a high risk approach like this should be eliminated, unless you consult with a lawyer and put in place a plan to address what happens in the unfortunate even of death or a severe illness. Having said all of that, I have corresponded with someone who has taken this extreme approach and she has done it in a carefully thought out way. I believe this to be the exception but it is a viable option. For confidentiality purpose I have not named her but if she is reading this, I hope that she comments and shares her thoughts.
The good news is that the extreme approach is not necessary for the wife to gain control over the finances. There are many strategies that can be employed to restrict his access to funds. The degree to which the Female wields control will depend on her savviness with handling the money versus her husbands savviness and trustworthiness with money matters. Let's face it, not everyone is good with money and that includes both Females and males. In my marriage, my husband is better with money management than I am and so I rightfully leverage his expertise and make him do all the grunt work associated with finances. However, I still retain control over the money. More on that later in the post.
First, let's start with a few basics of how you can exert control, regardless of whether or not you are a good money manager. The simplest starting point is to put him on a weekly spending allowance and require him to come to you if he needs more money. At the most basic level, he still has access to accounts and credit cards and you are relying on his obedience to comply. You can enforce the allowance policy by reviewing statements, questioning unauthorized charges and withdrawals, and punishing as warranted. With this simple approach, you have essentially taken control of the money without putting all the work and responsibility on yourself. For example, if your husband is out and you want him to buy something or he has a need to buy something beyond his approved funds, you can authorize the purchase and he can easily access the funds. He will feel controlled because he will have to spend within his allowance and he will have to seek approval to exceed his allowance. Requests to go above the allowance should be met with disappointment and consequences.
A next step would be to have him close any bank accounts that are solely in his name. I recommend having one joint account and one account in your name only. I do not advise to eliminate the joint account due to the risks noted earlier in this post. Another step to take is to eliminate or limit the use of credit cards or debit cards. I recommend that you allow him to carry at least 1 credit card for emergency use. Review the monthly statement each month so that you can monitor whether it has been used or not. Many credits cards have alerts that can be set-up to text you anytime the card is used or if a certain dollar amount is charged to the card.
How you fund the bank accounts and how he is allowed to use the credit card will depend on how tightly you want to control money. The tighter the control, the less access he has but the more work it creates for you. If you are a person that enjoys dealing with money matters and bills, then having tighter control is probably a good strategy for you. In this case, he is left with a credit card for emergency use only and your sole account should have the majority of funds going directly into it. If possible have his paycheck direct deposited to your account. If his company does not allow it, then have it deposited to the joint account and set-up automatic transfers to go from the joint account to your sole account. The joint account should be left with enough funds that he can access in the event of an emergency or to access if you need him to purchase something. If you are exerting tight control, you may even want to restrict his access to ATM cards and not provide him with passwords for online access. However, I recommend you have a plan in place for him to be able access the funds in the event of an emergency. For example, you could place the ATM card in a sealed envelop to be opened only in an emergency.
How I Handle the Finances
I take a looser approach with financial control because my husband is better with the finances and I have no interest in paying the bills. I enjoy that he handles the work and stress associated with bill paying. Therefore, our paychecks go into a joint account so that he has funds to pay the bills. However, a portion of his paycheck is direct deposited into my account and a portion goes directly into a savings/investment account that is to be untouched until I decide otherwise. I could have easily had money go from my paycheck into my account instead of taking it out of his. However, as a sign of my control over him, I want it to come from his paycheck. I enjoyed having him submit a form to his payroll to direct money from his check into my account. He has no insight into my account and how I use the money. He has a weekly cash allowance for expenditures for himself. He must request approval if he needs more funds. He rarely needs to request additional funds as he has learned to live within his budget.
He also has use of credit cards to make purchases. This is necessary because he does the food shopping, puts gas in the cars, and handles all the purchases needed for general household and yard maintenance. I have no desire to be involved in such purchases. However, large purchases ($100 or more) for any reason require my approval. I receive alerts on my phone from the credit card company when purchases exceed $100. I will also review credit card statements regularly and will punish him if I come across charges that I feel are unwarranted or that he should have gotten approval for. Fortunately he has good judgement and it is not often that punishment is needed. Although there are rarely issues, I still take the time to review the statements and I will purposely question a few charges so the he knows I am watching. I want him to feel that control and this ensures that he does not start to spend without permission.
Since he does have access to funds and credit cards, there is opportunity for him to cheat the system and sneak in a few purchases outside his allowance. As noted above, I review credit card and bank statements regularly to prevent this. In addition I will periodically conduct audits. These are always surprise audits and I like to make a big deal out of it. I will usually have him put on either his sissy panties or slave outfit (collar and cuffs) and kneel next to me while I sit at the computer and do a review of all accounts. He maintains an online check book and categorizes all purchases. Therefor it is easy for me to run reports and review how our money is spent. I will question him about anything unusual and I will also use the time to review how money is being spent, what is being saved, and whether or not we need to change anything, including his allowance. He is good with finances so I will seek his input and recommendations but I always have final say. The audits have never revealed anything concerning with his spending and I would not expect it since I already regularly review statements and capture issues at that time. However, they serve the purpose of demonstrating my control over the money and over him while also letting him know that there is no room for him to spend outside his allowance without my permission. If he does, he will be caught and there will be consequences for him.
After the audit, I will tease his cock a bit as reward for his obedience. I may even give him a one time bonus to add to his allowance for the week. It is quite powerful to count out cash for him while he is kneeling before me, almost naked and with an erection.
Assets
Removing his name from assets, such as the house, cars, and investments, is another way for the wife gain power over her husband and push him deeper into submission. This is a do-able approach but again, there are bigger considerations that must be weighed, such as estate planning, tax consequences and management of the assets. What is best for you will depend on how many assets you have and your net worth. There can be tax advantages to not having assets jointly owned. The biggest concern that I am aware of, with removing him from ownership of your house or other assets is that if you pass away, he will have to go through a probate process to get ownership of the house and assets, which takes time and costs money. Since he is your spouse, it is likely that he will eventually be awarded the assets but there may be a risk that he may not. Having a valid will in place which dictates how assets are to be distributed should solve for this. I am certainly not an expert on estate planning so you should consult an attorney to determine what is a feasible approach for your situation.
Another consideration is management of the assets. If the assets are in your name, then only you can handle the transactions and issues associated with the assets. This means more work for you and less work for your husband. You may be able to add your husband as an authorized user on your account, but then of course that diminishes the control of having the assets in your name.
In our marriage I am focused on what is best financially for us and what is best for the long-term well being of each of us and so there are assets in my name, assets in his name, and assets jointly owned. There is no doubt that he is submissive to me and that I control him. I do not feel the need to take sole ownership of assets to have that control. In the end, since he is my spouse, he inherently has a stake in those assets, even if he is not listed as a joint owner and so it appears to me that the control aspect here is somewhat of a myth. However, I can understand how a wife would want to take this step to exert her control and create a sense ownership of her husband. For me, it's just not the approach I want to do. I have many other ways of exerting control :).
Financial Planning
We meet regularly with a Female financial planner, which I highly recommend you do. At first my husband did most of the talking during our meetings because that is his area of expertise. However, after a few meetings, once I got a comfort level with what was being discussed, I began to ask more questions and take charge of the meeting. My husband is a wise slave and quieted down quickly the first time I started inserting myself into the conversation. I distinctly remember a surprised look on his face when I started dominating the discussion, and I enjoyed taking that control from him. He even commented to me a few days later that he felt control slipping away from him after that meeting and it made him feel even more submissive to me. Now, I am the one that corresponds with the financial planner and schedules appointments with her (or I order my husband to schedule the appointment). I still include him in the meetings because his financial savviness is valuable to me, but he gives his advice and then I discuss with the planner and make the final decisions.
Final Thoughts
Hopefully this gives you some ideas on how to take control of the finance in your WLM. Limiting his access or use of money is a definite and effective method of control. The amount of control you exert in financial matters depends on what you want to accomplish as well as how involved you want to be with the administrative work and handling issues. Tighter control will lead to more work for you and can be burdensome and stressful. No control or too loose control gives the submissive too much freedom and can lead to excessive and inappropriate spending. You need to find the right balance that works for you.
-Mz Kaylee
If you are Woman who is good with money, then you probably already have a heavy hand in the finances and so taking full control over the money is probably an easy step.
Ms Kaylee - great article. As a submissive to my Owner and wife i personally found handing her control over money to be one of the last 'barriers' to be crossed as we transitioned to a fully FLR. Our arrangement works similar to yours. We have a joint account and my wages are now paid direct into it. i have a card for that account which i can use to purchase groceries, pay bills etc for the house (it is my responsibility to do the shopping and pay bills). However, i am not permitted to make any purchases with it for myself and only Owner has access to the statements so i have no idea how much or little is in that account.
ReplyDeleteFrom that account i am given an allowance of £100 per month for incidentals that i am allowed to purchase i.e. coffees from a coffee shop or drinks for us both. i am not allowed to request more and so have to be careful what i spend on.
i am, however, also allowed a credit card for emergencies and to pay for holidays etc with. i am not certain that is a good idea and may request that Owner takes this away from me so that i have to ask Her permission before using.
i agree with you that having access to funds in the event of unforeseen circumstances is important and would only advocate handing financial control when you are in a well-established relationship. This set-up has been in place now for over five years and works well for us both.
Finally, there are also other ways in which my Owner exercises financial control in that i am not permitted to make any purchases of clothes for myself. Neither can i buy anything without Her approval which has a value over a few pounds, unless it is a gift for Her.
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For far too long, men have used money to control women. I absolutely agree that a wife should be in charge of money in a WLM because it reinforces Her authority and his submission. In my own marriage, I do handle the financial “chores,” because She dislikes the tedium of it, BUT She reviews all credit card charges and I must ask Her to spend any amount over $25. (She chooses not to be bothered with smaller details.)
ReplyDeleteAny major expenditure, like buying a car, furniture, vacations, etc., we discuss together, but it is up to Her to ultimately decide. When we go out to eat, I will ask Her if I may order a certain dish or have an alcoholic beverage or two.
I do not see Her authority around money as needed because of any irresponsibility on my part, but rather an act of submission and an acknowledgement of Her authority. I need and want to serve Her. I need and want to please Her. Edwin
There are lots of male subs for whom being turned into a 1950's style housewife type slave to their Mistress would be their ultimate dream fulfilled. Being so transformed would include being made powerless in many aspects of their lives - in all aspects of their lives would be desired by many of them - and one aspect would be not having any power or authority over money.
ReplyDeleteIt is not just the physical control of the money but the mental aspect of such a 1950's style housewife slave not having the mental capacity or smarts to deal with such complicated things as money, finances, etc. I know that this might sound odd to many. I am just stating that such male submissives exist and, for them, this would be their ultimate dream.
I know it might sound silly but basically being made to submit so that important things like money are not for their airheads, too complicated for them, etc, is what some desire. The march towards being totally powerless physically and mentally. Yes, the practicalities of tax, what happens in an emergency, etc, have to considered but they do not negate the fact that getting some pocket money IF the 1950's style housewife slave is a good little slave would be idyllic.
I like this write-up. My wife handles the accounts, and she doesn't control my spending at all (although she obviously could, since I obey her completely). I used to spend a lot on myself (easily tens of thousands of dollars per year), but over the past few years, coincident with our relationship becoming more and more hers to control, my spending on myself has dived towards zero. I still spend a fair bit (I do most of the gift shopping, for example), but very little of it is spent on myself. The focus has changed.
ReplyDeleteYou ladies must have a good laugh that submissive husbands desire to be so dependent on their wives. If she says no, that’s it. If the money is in her account, it’s no longer yours even if you made it. Yes, financial control is real control and its real world control not some fantasy. It’s now a life style. Careful what you wish for is what my wife says. Once she has the money, you really have little say and she can do as she pleases. Yes , it makes us very aroused and dependent on our wives. Over time as you are no longer involved in money management, you have no idea how to access accounts as technology changes, so you are even more dependent.
ReplyDeleteMy wife is extremely good with financial control/management. I don’t spend any money beyond gas and food without her approval. She’s not extremely strict but all major situations are handled by her. I have a chance to voice thoughts, but she makes the decisions and then we move forward. At first this was difficult at times for me, but I’ve grown into the reality of needing her approval. It works just fine and yes when she exerts her control I do get aroused. She knows that and she finds it a bit humorous/empowering all at once. She’s not abusive with the control, but she does do as she pleases and questions me about little things.
This is very high level domination - I'm not sure I would be comfortable going there but I admire couples that can!
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I appreciate your perspective and I think you are right that it is a higher level of domination. It was not something that happened in my WLM right away.
DeleteT, it’s not really much of a jump when your wife is good with money and has the household well being in mind. It does cause moments when you realize that the purchases are from her perspective not yours. Over time you adjust to her priorities and that’s just how it is. Yes, you can let your thoughts known, but you learn to keep them short and to the point. She doesn’t want to hear nonsense, she will stop that quickly. It works well for us and we both like it that way, she has things how she wants and I get to focus on her priorities.
ReplyDeleteI love that you're Mr Lois. It's your Mistress Wife Lois and you took Her name?
DeleteThe most important part is safety. There has to be safety for males also in an FLR. Coming from me you'll be surprised but: That's why, *as a matter of principle* (therefore it doesn't matter how much trust there is etc), no assets or money of the male should be put in the Wife's name or anything bizarre. It's OK if you want to have financial control (there should be safety but also Female Authority) but this can be accomplished without making the male ever be in a situation that's financially or legally or economically unsafe for him; there are other ways of making him vulnerable that are yes, vulnerable, but no, not unsafe. I may add, very vulnerable and very controlled. But very safe.
ReplyDeleteThe way to accomplish this is way. We know it by heart from old 1950s does of the patriarchy doing exactly that (with outdoor roles,). Anyway, this is how it's done so it's super safe and super fun and FemDom:
The male keeps his bank account, keeps his money, keeps his assets, keeps his right to them legally but the Female DIRECTS it. She sees the bank statements and he probably didn't even see them very often, his debit card is in his name but in Her purse, the house (it it's his) remains legally his but de facto She makes the rules (your house My rules), he gets his own money from Her (and She can tell him "no, you can't spend a thousand this week. Why? Oh just to flaunt My Female Authority this week over you!" ... Meaning the Woman mashed the day to day choices (which are what matter, because his life is day to day,) but each individual lashes the "big" choices (but in the case of the male, teaching directed by the Spirit Woman if She so wants, as long though as She's not trusting his arm to go something he doesn't want to).
In other words, the FemDom is psychological, it's like a gender roll reversal from the 50s but on steroids (it better yet, on Female hormones) if you want, but it should never be dangerous *on principle* even if there's trust, even if there's great intentions etc etc etc. Just like *on principle* you don't give a gun to a kid or drive drunk or anything like that, even if you're absolutely sure it's "safe this time", on principle you also never leave s person legally or financially or economically unprotected, even a male person. What you do do though it's Female Domination. What you do do is psychological domination.. creating a healthy fear of Mistress (like the fear She will not let the boy gogolfing tomorrow if he's not good, not like the fear She might just donate his house because She's super angry and they're getting a divorce). There's healthy fear and unhealthy fear. Healthy fear is when it's FemDom. Unhealthy fear is when it might be or is abuse. And there's no excuse for it in the world. There's also healthy dependence and unhealthy dependence.
Healthy dependence is the man feeling like a 1950s housewife because - well - that's exactly what he is (one in the 21st century). Healthy dependence is that he's so dependent psychologically on his Mistress that he wouldn't dare think ____ without Her. Healthy dependence isa very mild case of a Stockholm Syndrome that's sexy but not abusive. Healthy dependence is that he doesn't drive a car (I live this one because Women in Saudi Arabia were just allowed to drive locally very recently! Let's turn the tables!!). Healthy dependence is that he depends on Her to order at restaurants or dependes on Her to give him an allowance - but not that he depends on Her to not lose his shirt or sleep under the bridge, no matter how f***ing dependable She is - and the rain is because we want healthy FemDom, not only because dime Women can't be trusted and others can. We want healthy slaves, not slaves living in an unhealthy situation even if they're bodies are healthy. We want a healthy Matriarchy, not a dystopia.
Great perspective Gigi. Definitely agree with your well thought out comments. Thank you.
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Gigi - I've read back over a dozen or so comments by you but I cannot work out whether you are Female or male. I am fascinated though that you live in Saudi Arabia? Are you Saudi born? Given the strict male-dominated culture of Saudi and the religion of Islam I would love to hear more from your perspective of what Femdom is like in Saudi? Surely it is greatly hidden? Aren't there real dangers to show any hint of being submissive as a male or dominant as a Woman in Saudi? I am not even sure how Saudi Women would be able to manifest themselves as dominant in any way, let alone to learn about Femdom and, I would imagine, far, far harder to make contact with a Saudi male who wished to be submissive. As I say, I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
DeleteGigi - thanks for your comment and I agree that safety is important you are spot on the so much about femdom control is psychological. Wonderful perspective. A thought I had on safety is that, what is safe varies by country, state, and whether you are married or not. I would not advocate for financial control in non-married relationship or in a troubled marriage. This is foolish for the guy in my opinion. In a new marriage, I'd suggest basic oversight as a starting point and not complete financial control.
DeleteFor a married couple in the USA, it is much different than a non-married couple because although assets may not be jointly owned, my understanding is that the spouse will likely have legal right to claim the assets in the event something happens to the wife or divorce. To your point there is risk in that the wife could sell the assets that are in her name so that is a consideration. However, if assets are jointly owned and there is a jointly owned bank account, then I see no harm in not allowing any assets or accounts to be solely in his name. I am not saying that it has to be done, but I am merely presenting it as a feasible option. For the record, when we first married and before we were in a WLM, our paychecks went into a joint account and we did not maintain separate accounts so it's not out of the ordinary. I may be the minority view here, but it always surprised me when married couples maintained their own separate accounts. Once we were married we viewed our incomes as one income and all expenses as shared expense, regardless of the source of income or expense.
Amen! Healthy FLR/WLM (Femdom) should be safe and definitely not abusive. Thank you Gigi!
ReplyDelete"No control or too loose control gives the submissive too much freedom and can lead to excessive and inappropriate spending." I hate to be the fly in the ointment, but this repeated sentiment in your post is a flawed assumption. Regardless as to what one's preferences are with power dynamics in a relationship, can anyone here say that they have never seen a woman be totally irresponsible with money?
ReplyDeleteMy own mother, who was quite a dominant and intelligent woman in many ways, ended up in bankruptcy once my father passed away and was not there to guide her. Even after that, instead of learning from that experience, she did it all again, and died in debt...........which I as executor had to navigate stressfully.
My own lovely wife, whom I trust completely to manage my behavior, is not someone I would feel comfortable handing the purse strings to. But, to the point of having a low-level FLR, I do always solicit her input on major purchases. However, while this might qualify as a sort of modified approach to financial control, since it is also something egalitarian relationships do as well, I think it may just be what any couple should do to foster harmony and to brainstorm ideas about spending. I also see my financial handling to be somewhat akin to your own husband's.....a kind of expertise directed as a service to a lady.
So while financial control may appeal to some, and while it might even be a benefit to others, it is unrealistic to say that without a woman's control "men" would stray off into the weeds with their money. In my own experience the opposite has been far more true.
There you go, agreed
DeleteI do not disagree with you, which is why I used the word "can" in my statement and even stated in the article that not all women are good with money. Not all women are good at leading either so I am not a believer in Matriarchy. WLM is not for everyone.
DeleteSomething very important in my comment is tres, I call for safety for bird but also for authority for Women. Boys are still there to serve Women, of course.
ReplyDeleteGigi, Yes my wife is Lois, but I did not formally take her name. That was a different day and time.
ReplyDeleteI’m very fortunate that both my wife and I have been good with money over the years. As a result I don’t have to worry about somethings others do. In reality, she’s more on the conservative side than I am. On the day to day things have changed over the years and she is really the director of what is or is not purchased. That’s a drastic change from when we started out and is done through her priorities not mine. That means a lot more luxury items for her and less toys for me. This works well for us, but may not work for others as everyone has been pointing out.
Thinks need to be handled in a safe manor because no one wants to see their cash and assets disappear just because they got aroused. Be careful out there and don’t just jump in without thinking with your big head.
Hi Ms. Loise's hubby,
DeleteI love that you're Mr. Loise! There's a gorgeous thread on Submissive husband's taking their Wive's name on the defunct "Worshipping Your Wife" blog. The also defunct Elise Sutton site also talks about that. It works volumes of your wife's commitment to Matriarchy (and yo the extent that you have choices in your marriage, yours too! Which is very, very special! Kudos to both of Y/you!)
Anyway...
I wrote an answer and it was erased by mistake. I wanted to say that in my previous post I wrote between **s
I'm trying to find my post... In any case, it was about how not doing the things I said should never be done like living the husband or of all financial or economically assets is something that shouldn't be done, not only because it's dangerous it anything like that (that too) but "*in principle*".
That's the most important point I wanted to make and I think only Mz Kaylee understood it (probably Female wisdom).
But I think something that will help you understand it better is this:
Picture a couple who does that.
Then their 10 year old boy grows up, gets married to a bitch, he died what he learned at home and that bitch screws him over. His Mother was a wonderful Dominant Woman. But She didn't listen to my advice of acting *on principle* to protect her husband. She was "punished" very very hardly for that. How? In the form of what happened to Her son because of Her bad example of acting not *on principle* but as just a short sited person who analyzed the problem as "an O trustworthy? Yes / No. Oh then my husband has to trust me, OK, let's do it! Give me all your bank accounts and out the house in my name".
That's being short sited and not understanding you're part of a society. Your own come if only an example. You're also influencing the next generation and the present generation of people who practice FemDom (and other people) and if your FemDom is not going to be practiced with consciousness, then it doesn't matter how much you say you "practice it with love", no, your being the opposite of constructive to this world, to this society, and that can't be your Dharma. You need to envision the Matriarchy and be a part of it, not just play FemDom games because it's fun. This is about way more than your personal fun.
ReplyDeleteAnd I think the psychological control that a Wife exerts on Her submissive husband's is enough, you don't need also legal control or anything else like that. In the height of the patriarchy in the USA they never had lawyers to rob Women of their financial assets (not in an institutionalized way, if someone did that was just a case). No. They actually called Women "Ladies" and patriarchy or not that's what they were expected to be treated like. So you can't make a Matriarchy that's better than the patriarchy but that treats men like crap or is worst than what the patriarchy was too Ladies but at the same time somehow "better". You want Matriarchy? Define it. Do it but do it responsibly! Don't just jump into every single idea that can be fun but has loads of downsides just because "you got this covered" or even because "your Mistress has got this covered" and She's trustworthy. Even your Mistress still needs to think of Her impact on society and in the world.
You need to be more like whatever the Wife in "the Jetsons" was. On the beginning of the show, Steve (if that was his name, I forgot) hands Her a dollar bill but She grabs the washer and leaves him the bill instead. If You're Female You're now love that Steve, You are the giver and controller of money but You are still a loving spouse and want Your submissive to live well, he can take more, her can go shopping. And yes, You can also punish him and control him because that's fun and because that's Your roll Audi as the Head of the Household sometimes. And if you're a male you have to respect and submit to your Spirit Wife but you can also be playful, you are expected to relish life and go shopping, take the entire wallet! Hi buy dinner makeup so that your Wife can feminize you and enjoy you or of She doesn't like that then but Her a gift that shows Her you love Her or go and buy things for your children since you're roll is not to be the head of household but more the nurturing parent, submissive spouse and second sex outside in the world. Go gossip over coffee with your friends. Be joyous, Dominant Women live joyous but submissive boys. Be Hers.
(I'm sorry, my comment was too long doI needed to post 2).
ReplyDeleteUK Kin what? Saudi Arabia? Lol I just mentioned that country for something that was relevant but I'm not from there. Lol.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe you don't know what sex I am. Well keep guessing boy! Lol. U seem like a sweet person. It's very important for submissive boys to be sweet. Remember the second part of "to obey and please" is to please. That's what being the submissive is about. And it goes from being sweet to dressing ina way that Women wild love to see you to anything else. Be pleasing and consider yourself the second sex and Women will take notice!
In our WLM, we have three accounts: a joint account where his paycheck goes and which pays all of our monthly expenses; a joint "vacation" account where a designated amount is funded by his paycheck for savings, vacations, unexpected expenses and emergencies; and an account in my name only where my income goes and which he has no access to.
ReplyDeleteHis income is much greater than mine, and he likes being the macho breadwinner who pays for everything. But we have this joint account budgeted so it is close to empty at the end of the month, and if there isn't enough there the last week, then he is out of luck for his golf outing or anything else. He is not allowed to touch the vacation account without my permission, and I never approve for silly things like golf.
We both have cards for the vacation account, but he may not use his card without my express permission unless it is a true emergency. He broke that rule just one time, and I beat his ass for it! I get text notifications any time that account is used.
This works well for us. I love that he never knows if he can afford something at the end of the month.
Trina
Trina, sounds like the two of you have a good plan and as head of household you correct any mistakes. I’m more naturally submissive, so I try to avoid mistakes by getting approval first.
DeleteI wished Ms Viola Voltairine was in this blog. She's a real lifestyle Female Dominant and Her views are very valuable. She has literally the best channel on YouTube on the subject, is starting a real community and belongs here. Z Kaylee, I suggest you personally invite her.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the time you put into this Mz Kaylee, this is such a well thought out article. From allowance to assets to financial planners, so much ground covered... and for my wife, at an opportune time.
ReplyDeleteCouples need to think several years ahead and ask themselves if they really want to be in a situation at that time, that a big change now will create. The erotic hotness and fun of an idea eventually fades, it must fade into a good place for both partners.
When my wife needs to be sure that she understands my feelings about a big change, she told me she’s using a three-step process.
ONE – she presents it in a cock-talk, mostly for the fun we have, but she also takes notice to see if there is any hesitation from me about the idea even while I’m in a mind mush. And of course she gets answers!
TWO – within that first hour or so after she allows me an orgasm (but we were not discussing the idea at all in this case), she brings it up. With all my horny chemistry released, she knows, at that point, she’s talking to my most pragmatic side. She says that tells her a lot about what my feelings might fade into over time.
THREE – a few days after an orgasm I’m in a fairly horny state again, “where I live” as she puts it, she has me write about the idea – the pros and cons from my point of view. It's kind of a baseline.
Not sure if she does it in that order every time?
She allows me maybe 10 orgasms a year, so the process takes a while. It’s a balanced, caring approach that creates a loving FLM for us – a slowly evolving, changing, ever-exciting marriage is her goal. Our goal. I am so blessed to be under her control, she hears that from me daily. Thanks again for this article that will help her soon take the last of full control in this momentous area of our marriage too.
Carlos
Really great article Mz Kaylee! You've discussed finances in several previous posts, but this is really concise. Thank you for all the time and consideration you put into this blog – making it a real and lively place for WLM couples to discuss and learn.
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Carlos
After reading this post and comments, I guess I am passive in a lot of things in my life except when it comes to finances. As much as I would not mind having a relationship that is female led, I just can not have any of my finances and assets out of my control. Working all day for a paycheck and then having to beg for an allowance would make me resentful of her. I would not want to develop negative feelings towards my partner. So from the feelings/vibes of the people on this post I am incapable of being in a female led relationship because I have a strong need to keep control of my finances/assets. A passive man except with money/assets.
ReplyDeleteDon’t give up on yourself yet. You don’t have to dive right into the deep end of things because yes, that could cause resentment in your case. Any relationship is built on communication and this is no exception.
ReplyDeleteI am in the same boat as you. Never in a million year would I have thought I could give up even a modicum of control of my finances to someone else. And I have started very slowly doing just that, in little ways. It is still hard but I just communicate with my Wife every time I feel uncomfortable. She’s amazing and helps talk me through it. I still handle all finances and gather information, but now before making decisions unilaterally, we consult together over most larger purchases and she makes the final call if we disagree. Most of the time we don’t and I can tell she goes with my recommendation.
Do both of you only have a joint account so both of you know where the money is going? What bothers me the most on most FLR talks on finances is that on part of the funds the husband (I am making the assumption that only a married couple would have another person have some control of their money) can not know where some/all of the marital money is going towards. On deadlocked financial decisions personally I would rather it be calmly discussed until a consensus is achieved because on major financial decisions it affects both partners for a considerable amount of time. I would be extremely frustrated knowing up front I lose on deadlocked decisions and that frustration would lead to resentment. I believe she would be better served with having to hammer out a compromise versus having a simmering passive aggressive feelings towards the major purchase that would fester for a long time due to the long term nature of a major purchase.
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