Sunday, November 8, 2020

Submissive Men and Chores

There were quite a few comments and questions about chores in the comments of the last post so I decided to write a post on chores. Doing chores is probably not something most guys think about when they are are first venturing into female domination and female led relationships or wife led marriages. I'd be willing to bet most guys in the beginning would actually want to avoid chores and instead are viewing their submission mostly in a sexual way and thinking more about being forced to be a sexual slave or being punished and humiliated. This seems to be the typical guy fantasy.  It is fine as a fantasy and if you have a woman who is willing to indulge in that fantasy over and over again, then that's great and your are one lucky guy.

However, the reality for most guys is that the only women who are going to strictly indulge in their sexual submissive fantasy on an ongoing basis, are the ones that require payment. There is no shortage of professional dominatrix or online mistresses that will satisfy those desires so long as you keep paying them. If you want a real sustainable FLR/WLM then you need to look beyond the sexual fantasy. You need to adjust your fantasy to incorporate things that benefit your partner and appeal to her. Her being sexually dominant to you is not a sustainable benefit for her. Being dominant can be fun but it is also work. Unlike submissive guys who crave to be dominated, most women can live with or without it. 

Taking on chores is one way for the submissive fantasy to transcend into reality and to make it appealing to your partner. I think it is safe to say that most, if not all, women do not enjoy doing chores. I absolutely love that I don't have to do them anymore. I don't ever want to go back to doing chores and so that is motivation for me to lead the WLM and keep it going strong by incorporating femdom to motivate my husband. My husband is motivated by sexual pleasure and his strong desire to be controlled and I am motivated by him working for me, pampering me, and treating me like a Queen. We’ve found the balance between those motivators that works well for us as a couple.

An environment can be created by the woman to add excitement to the chores for the guy. This is done by incorporating female domination and making the chores meaningful to the guy by holding him accountable for completing them. Some examples of how to do this are outlined below:

Training - Make it a big deal when you train him on new chores. Have him naked or in panties or a maid outfit, or some other outfit such as a collar and cuffs. Pulling him around on a leash while training him is also fun. Be firm and clear on your instructions and expectations for how he is to do the chore. A dominant and demanding tone is exciting for him. Carrying a riding crop or paddle with you while training is also fun. Give his butt a little slap to enforce certain points or to correct him if he is not doing something right. Make sure his cock is hard during the training. Give it a few strokes when he is doing good. Hold it firmly while you are giving him instructions. I like using it as a handle to pull him around the house :). Associating pleasure with chores, makes it exciting for him. Make him write down the chore expectations and keep a chore journal so that he does not forget. Do not hesitate to retrain him again if he starts slacking off on a chore. Your submissive husband will be very excited and eager to be trained  on chores if you incorporate some of the above techniques or add your own dominant spin to the training. 

Incorporate Reviews and Discipline  If you do not review his work regularly, he will begin to slack off on chores. If you are home while he is doing chores, take a look at his work and give him immediate feedback. If he is doing good, give his cock a little rub or give him a kiss and tell him how pleased your are with his work. If he forgot to do something or did not do a chore to your expectations, let him know and make him fix it. It's up to you if you want to add any discipline. Usually pointing out his mistake is enough because guys feel bad about not meeting your expectations. Sometimes I will say, I'll add that to the list for our review session, which usually results in added time for his weekly corner time. If there is a recurring problem then a punishment may be in order to help him stay focused. My husband has been sent to the corner a few times for not hanging my clothes properly and he's missed a guys night out because he's forgotten to mop the kitchen floor. 

It is very important that the wife/gf pay attention to the chores and provide feedback, both positive and negative, to the guy on his performance with chores. It is especially important to do this when he is being trained on a new chore. This is what makes it exciting for him and motivates him to do a good job. The wife should be strict in how she evaluates his performance and should not feel bad about disciplining or punishing him when needed. This is what submissive guys want. They need structure, high expectations, and to be held accountable. It is also important to provide positive motivators and reward him when he is meeting expectations. A cock rub is a good motivator and indulging in his fantasies and fetishes is a nice reward to. I love that one of my husband’s favorite rewards is when I order him to pleasure me with his tongue. 

I recommend that the wife use a combination of immediate feedback when possible, and a weekly review of his performance. I often make notes in my phone throughout the week of things I notice and then review them with him at our weekly review session. When he is being trained on a new chore, I pay close attention and give him more immediate feedback until I feel he is doing it perfect. It takes commitment from the wife to pay attention to the chores and  give feedback. I was not good with this in the beginning but over time I realized that when I did not pay attention, he slacked off on chores but when I paid close attention, not only was he motivated to do them but he was excited about it. Eventually I made the realization that the amount of time needed for oversight and feedback was a fraction of the time I was previously spending on doing the chores and that when I supervised, the house stayed much cleaner than it ever was before we changed to a WLM.  This made it easy for me to accept the responsibility.

Make him wear a chore outfit  A chore outfit helps put him in a submissive mode and adds a little excitement for him. Chore outfits have a strong psychological effect on submissive guys The outfit can be as simple as requiring him to wear a collar and/or cuffs or making him do chores naked. A butt plug most definitely brings out his submissive feelings. For many guys being feminized while doing chores is very exciting. The role reversal of him being the house wife is an exciting humiliation. This can range from requiring him to wear panties all the way up to being fully feminized with a bra, stockings, garters, and dress. A maid outfit is also fun. I require my my husband to wear "maid panties" that are black silk and trimmed with white lace. He does chores on a daily basis but Sundays are the day in which he does most of the house chores so that is the day he wears the maid panties. If the kids are around, he wears them under his clothes. If they are not home, then he does he chores in nothing but the panties. Sometimes I will make him iron my clothes naked.

Change his Perspective

Instead of making chores about doing work, change his thinking to be that he is doing chores to serve you and make your life better. He should feel privileged to be a servant or slave to a Goddess. It sounds simple, but it adds meaning to what he is doing. I often refer to him as slave or maid when he is doing chores. That always gets a rise out of him and adds pep to his step.  Guys - this is something you can do own your own without prompting from her. You just need to reframe your mental state to view chores differently. I was lucky that my husband always had this attitude about chores so he was an eager trainer.

Should he do all the chores?

If you read my previous two posts, then you know that my husband does just about every chore in our house. Do not shed any tears for him or have pity for him. He can handle it and he is living his fantasy. I would not expect the husband to do most of the chores in every WLM. The amount of chores assigned to him depends on your current lifestyle and his ability to take on the work. For example, if you have a very active social life or if his job is demanding and requires extra hours, then he may be limited in the amount of chores he can take on. I would also not advise that you assign him a lot of chores all at once. This is sure to burn him out or create a lot of stress for him. It took many years for me to assign most of the chores to my husband. Part of the reason for the long transition was tied to our lifestyle. As the kids got older and the craziness of coaching, and running them around to sporting events and activities subsided, he had more time on his hands. Also, he took on a new job that was less demanding than his previous one, which gave him more time. Before all these changes, he would have struggled to take on a lot of extra chores and so I shared in the chore responsibility. Part of the transition of chores was also tied to his ability to take on more chores. I would train him on one chore and then wait for him to get it down and get into a good routine before adding another. Overtime he became good and efficient at doing his new chores and so he was able to take on more.

So where does one start with the chores and figure out the right allocation? I would hope that in most traditional marriages the chores are split pretty evenly among husband and wife. Therefore, unless there is some unusual circumstances, in a WLM the guy should be doing more than 1/2 of the chores. For me it was a no-brainer to start with having him clean the bathrooms because I don't like doing it. Bathrooms also have the connotation of a "woman's" job so making him clean them is a great form of role reversal domination. Laundry was another big one that I was happy to transition to him. Establishing rules and high expectations for the chores he is already doing is another way to add to your control. For example, prior to our WLM, my husband was responsible for cleaning the dishes. There were times when dirty dishes would sit around for hours and even overnight. After WLM I established a rule that all dishes had to be cleaned by the end of the night and that he had to wipe down all counters and the table. Later I updated the rule that dishes had to be done immediately after dinner and any dishes from the evening had to be done before he went to bed. It is so much better now that dishes are not piled in the sink. When you have clear rules and expectations, it keeps him focused on getting things done. It also makes it easier for you to evaluate his performance because you have very specific standards that he has to meet.

While you don't want to overwhelm him, do not be afraid to push him hard. Guys can handle a lot and if he truly is serving you, then he should be working hard for you. If he is not working for you then he is probably spending time surfing for porn or fantasizing about how he wants to be dominated more, so it is in your best interest to keep him busy and doing things for you as much as possible.  When you incorporate the perspective of female domination into his chores, there is a certain excitement and pleasure that he gets from being forced to work hard for  you. My sense is that a lot of women are too easy or their husband/bf and that the guys want to be pushed harder. 

 After reading all of the above, you can see that doing chores in a WLM is much different than doing chores in a traditional marriage. The chores become a part of the domination dynamic and therefore become meaningful and at times exciting for the guy. Chores become integrated into the submissive fantasy and so it is not all work and no play. It is work mixed in with fantasy which makes chores more tolerable and sometimes fun.

-Mz Kaylee 















23 comments:

  1. That makes total sense to me, Mz Kaylee. Women are superior to men and they should be treated as Goddesses. It is a privilege to adore, serve, pamper, please and pleasure a Goddess.

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  2. I always say, if you have to do chores anyway, they may as well be naked femdom chores!
    CK

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  3. Great post. I think you're spot on how you wrote many may have an illusion how the wlm would be and not be a sexual dominatrix fantasy. If anything, it very well may be possible there could be less sex. More pleasurable and intense however.

    I believe that men's sexual energy is redirected to pleasure his partner other ways... Such as doing chores. I believe mz Kaylee wrote before how pleasing her this way could be satisfying and pleasurable to her and hubs. Perhaps arousing even. It is exciting knowing hubs is behaving accordingly and serving.

    There's a lot less emphasis on pleasing sexually day to day and more on chores and expectations that can be just as fulfilling in some ways. Sex may merely be seen as a bonus and privilege.

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  4. A well-trained sub does household chores out of love for his Mistress.
    In some vanilla couples, the women do all the housework, why the submissives wouldn't do all the housework ? They are no less capable.
    Michel

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  5. This is such a good post Mz Kaylee. As a submissive housewife i do all of our household chores just as your husband does. All too often blogs and articles focus on FLR from a male fantasy perspective, but as you say the submissive is their to serve their Mistress or Owner and to do things She wants, not what the submissive fantasises about.

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  6. My last punishment came from complaining about chores. Sarah went into complete dominate mode. The cage, that I had managed to stay out of for a few weeks, went back on and I ended up, naked on my knees in the living room while she sat on the couch and reprimanded me for ten minutes. She set the tone by starting out with "Alan, I have no idea why you think you have any say around here, you will do what your told period". When she finished I apologized, punishment was handed out, and I went back to my chores. As the years add up I feel she becomes more relaxed about treating me like a slave. No feminizing yet, but I have been told that will be the next step. Guys, do your chores without complaint, it will make life much smoother for you. Stay Safe-Alan

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  7. Dating my wife knew I could be lazy, at work, around the house. It was when I was about to be fired, late too many times, that she had enough. She said she was going to give me a spanking, I smiled, said sure and went along with it. Well when she pulled down the underpants, my bottom was already warm and stinging, but that hairbrush landed on my bare bottom was no longer funny. When she stood me up, get use to it honey, and now face the wall. I'm not lazy, but she saids a slow learner, and now the bath brush is used, quicker, longer lasting results, and now always on the bare bottom, no warm up.

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  8. Dear Mz Kaylee,
    It made me chuckle when you wrote that you rewarded Thomas for being good by letting him pleasure you with his tongue. For me too, this has always been my favourite reward. My wife rewards me with a 'blowjob'! But in our house a blowjob is me pleasuring my wife with my tongue. We decided to use the term because, cunnilingus and other words and phrases for this are just so clunky. But more importantly because blowjobs in the traditional sense of the word just don't happen in our relationship and never have! There is no confusion as to the meaning.
    Sissy Jenna

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  9. Our whole dynamic revolves around housework rather than sex, so Mz Kaylee's comment about making WLM "appealing to your partner" hits home for me. It's really been a constant progression in our relationship, since we started to live together, to getting married, I took on more and more chores. And then like I've stated, when Covid hit this spring and I started to work from home, my wife decided to shift any and all remaining chores over to me. She also moved me from the bedroom to the guest room to make that transition easier, given I now wake up earlier than her and go to bed later in order to fit chores/work in. We have never done formal "training" or "review" although that might be "fun"; my wife is very no-nonsense and the "training" initially was her showing me EXACTLY what she expected, and the review would be a fairly harsh critique if it was not. Discipline was reserved if mistakes were repeated, and that has really become the greatest motivator/reward for me (i.e. not being punished) given just how severe it typically is. I've also noted how I'm also now doing chores on the weekends for some of her friends, which has added another dynamic. While doing chores initially was thrill, it does become just "work" eventually, although I do truly take pleasure now in pleasing her, meeting her expectations and anticipating her needs, even if the work is now more or less taken for granted on her part. She has a lot more time now to devote to her own work and other interests, which has made her happier overall, and in turn, makes my life better. Last last night, if my only sexual "reward" from a full day of non-stop chores is giving her an hour long foot rub while she reads, I'm fine with that.

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    1. Hey there Tim
      I still got questions for ya sometime. Nice job following orders

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  10. Excellent article Mz Kaylee! I still consider us as "beginners" in our FLR. We are learning ways to motivate each other. Sometimes it's fun and sometimes it does seem like work. It's worth it! I believe that my partner would agree that the reality is very different from the fantasies. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

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  11. Thank you for another inspiring post. As a man who was for a couple of years having an own apartment incl. all chores I‘m wondering, which kind of chores are so difficult that a training is needed? I can just imagine ironing of female clothes. But except this, I‘m not so sure. Can you please elaborate on the difficult types of chores a little bit?

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    1. Maybe cooking requires some training, but even that is just following recipe directions. I like to cook for dates and I love to eat. Of course, you shouldn't mix bleach and ammonia cleaners or you could die.

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  12. Thanks all for your comments and sharing your own experiences when it comes to chores. I enjoy hearing others experiences and I often learn from them. A few additional comments, based on what you've all posted above:

    -Training on chores is about setting clear expectations on how I want the chore done and when they need to be done. My idea of cleaning and his idea of cleaning are different. Laundry probably required the most training because I had to train him on separating clothes, which clothes go in the dryer vs. hanging up, making sure they are hung up properly and put away in the right place. You'd be surprised at how often he gets in trouble for not hanging my clothes neatly or putting them away in the wrong spot!
    -Similar to Tim's situation, I have added more chores and higher expectations during the pandemic because my husband is working from home and we are not as active outside the house so he has the time.
    -Love the comment about how women used to do all the work so it should be no problem for guys to do it!

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    1. I'll share my experience with "training". It mainly revolved around laundry for me, as otherwise most chores are straightforward. The actual doing of laundry wasn't a big deal initially. My wife has separate baskets and basically every day I'm doing something. I quickly got down what needed one temperature, etc. and how/when to spot treat. BUT ironing was a little harder. There we actually were the picture of a fantasy, where I'm standing in my apron and she's hovering behind, arm's folded, ordering me what and how to do things. Folding was the hardest. She used to work retail way back in the day so is a master at folding. Needless to say, reaching her folding standards was a very painful process for me that lasted months! The how and where to put things away was also a learning curve for me....other than that I don't recall too much formal training, unless you consider her pedicures part of doing "chores". Again, a "painful" process for me as I never realized until I started how much time/skill/practice goes into it. Facials too, I'll add.

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  13. Great post! I'm trying to go to the essence of chores, I definitely do more but I want to go deeper on my own resistance/difficulty to do some, and some wives' resistance to give up. I hope it's down to the 'times' where I have a demanding job and playing time with small children. But I do appreciate the value in 'training', I never lived alone and basic tasks take me really long to do.

    For us, part of the issue is that Queen doesn't let go completely. We are working (as a family) on a big chore where She doesn't need to be involved, and I saw her smile when she finally imagined this time would help her achieve other goals.

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  14. Mz Kaylee, the topic of household chores doesn’t seem to be as popular with the male readers here as orgasm control, for example. Too bad, because I know for women, it is much more important in femdom relationships. Especially for married couples.

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  15. It is a pleasure to clean and cook for a beautiful Goddess. The feeling of accomplishment and knowing that she is pleased with me is the best feeling in the world. Her praise makes me want to do the chores a little better and faster everyday.

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  16. Some background: I recently started my attempt to establish a wife led marriage (but we have been doing orgasm control for a couple of years). My approach so far has been to encourage my wife to tell me what chores I need to do. In order not to scare her off, I have only been humorously using the terms submissive and dominant. And I also have refrained from correlating any of this with sexual activities. The reason, as mentioned throughout this blog, is that I don't want this to devolve into a focus on sex for me. Everything I read here indicates that review/discipline/punishment is critical in a WLM. So my question: How do I introduce this to my wife? I could say to her, "Hey look I forgot to take out the garbage today, so now you should spank me until my butt is red." If I do that I am really concerned it will seem like some S&M fetish of mine that I am forcing on her. So how do I get her to start seeing discipline as a benefit for her (also without topping from the bottom)?

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    1. You have the right idea of keeping it lite but you should not ignore the sexual component. That is important too. Sounds like your wife is already being dominant in some way. I'd suggest you have an open and honest conversation about your desires and how your submission will benefit her and how it can be fun. Let her know that you want to be held accountable for doing chores up to her expectations. Convey to her that you want her to live like a Goddess and part of that is that you will do whatever it takes to make her life easier and better. Let her know that punishment and discipline will help motivate you and stay focused on doing things the way she wants them done. It is ok to admit that you enjoy being under her strict control and that it arouses you. It is ok to admit that it is a bit weird and that you don’t understand why you get excited by it, but you do and you enjoy it. It is ok to laugh with her about it. Perhaps start off by asking her to do a fun review session once a month. It may also help for you to share an article from my blog or another blog. Find an article that you feel conveys what you want and ask her to read it. Good luck!

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  17. Thank you very much Mz. Kaylee for the feedback. A few weeks ago I actually did print out a couple of articles from your blog and gave them to my wife. I am not sure if she actually read them. I have taken your advice and asked her to have an open and honest discussion later today. I am also tempted to read your exact answer to me and attribute them to some "random Q & A I just happened to see on the web." We shall see how this goes......

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  18. Being ordered to do Housework was always my fantasy. Before I got married I used to visit a professional dominatrix who would assign me chores to do. I would pay her and she would use me to do her dishes and clean both of her bathrooms. I was fined if the work was not perfect. A few years after I was married I confessed to my wife that I was a Submissive and there was no reason for her ever to do any Housework. My wife thought it was strange at first, but she got used to it really fast. She told me the marriage must stay as it is. Occasionally my wife will cook, just because she wants to. But when the meal is done, I am expected to cleanup all of the dishes immediately. My wife does not lift a finger to do any housework period. Beside doing all of the housework, I also did work a full time job. We had adult kids in the house at one time, so I am sure they knew something was going on. My wife did not care about that.

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