I’m sure you have read about, or experienced punishment while either in a WLM,
or reading about WLM. Being bent over a chair for the paddle, corner time, or
being given the wife’s sister’s weeks worth of laundry to complete.
being given the wife’s sister’s weeks worth of laundry to complete.
If you have heard of the four levels of FLR’s we are at about a three.
My wife’s first choice punishment was always the old standby…. corporal. A
problem soon became apparent when I started looking forward to these times,
and they became non-effective. This caused her to start looking for ideas that I
most certainly would NOT look forward to. To give proper credit, she gained one
of these ideas, and the concept of me NOT wanting it, from a blog written by
Mistress Scarlet of the UK. These incidents I will write about, I have previously
described in comments. I am writing this guest blog because I hope to help others
think more broadly, regarding the concept of punishment. It doesn’t always have
to involve physical pain. I’ll describe the worst treatments of many, my wife has
given me. These still make my skin crawl as I begin writing about them.
My wife’s first choice punishment was always the old standby…. corporal. A
problem soon became apparent when I started looking forward to these times,
and they became non-effective. This caused her to start looking for ideas that I
most certainly would NOT look forward to. To give proper credit, she gained one
of these ideas, and the concept of me NOT wanting it, from a blog written by
Mistress Scarlet of the UK. These incidents I will write about, I have previously
described in comments. I am writing this guest blog because I hope to help others
think more broadly, regarding the concept of punishment. It doesn’t always have
to involve physical pain. I’ll describe the worst treatments of many, my wife has
given me. These still make my skin crawl as I begin writing about them.
The two corrective treatments were: 1. Buying panties. 2. Learning to dance.
About two years into our marriage, I made the mistake of arguing with my wife.
But instead of corporal punishment, she brought up the Victoria’s Secret website
on her laptop, and she picked out three specific styles, and patterns of panties in
specific colors, in large size for me. I had to hand write out the list of these. For
example: Boyshorts, in Peach color with V.S. logo pattern, large size. Then we
went to a mall we never go to, she dialed my cell phone from hers, and told me to
put mine in my shirt pocket so she could hear everything, and be sure I wouldn’t
try using the I’m buying them for my wife ruse. I went in alone, asked a sales lady
for help, and showed her the list, in my hand writing. If they didn’t have a specific
one in stock, I was to ask her for a recommendation. Most importantly I had to
vocally tell the sales woman that they were for me. Loud enough to be heard by
my wife over the phone. I don’t know how long I was in there, maybe fifteen
minutes, but it felt like a lifetime. Once I was at the cash register, I was to pay
the sales lady a 35% tip. My wife meanwhile hung out across the corridor
watching me, and listening intently on her cell phone. I can’t begin to describe
But instead of corporal punishment, she brought up the Victoria’s Secret website
on her laptop, and she picked out three specific styles, and patterns of panties in
specific colors, in large size for me. I had to hand write out the list of these. For
example: Boyshorts, in Peach color with V.S. logo pattern, large size. Then we
went to a mall we never go to, she dialed my cell phone from hers, and told me to
put mine in my shirt pocket so she could hear everything, and be sure I wouldn’t
try using the I’m buying them for my wife ruse. I went in alone, asked a sales lady
for help, and showed her the list, in my hand writing. If they didn’t have a specific
one in stock, I was to ask her for a recommendation. Most importantly I had to
vocally tell the sales woman that they were for me. Loud enough to be heard by
my wife over the phone. I don’t know how long I was in there, maybe fifteen
minutes, but it felt like a lifetime. Once I was at the cash register, I was to pay
the sales lady a 35% tip. My wife meanwhile hung out across the corridor
watching me, and listening intently on her cell phone. I can’t begin to describe
the embarrassment. After being utterly humiliated from customers stares, and
them leaving the store, I got out of there, back to my wife, and showed her the
bag, relieved that I was done. Then she said “Now go back in, and tell her you
forgot to ask her for information about Victoria’s Secret credit card rewards, and
carry your pretty panty bag back in with you”. This I was not expecting. I went
back, literally trembling, and asked the same sales woman what I had been told to
ask her. She looked at me, and said “you…what”? She gave me the most
menacing look, and I felt the blood rush to my face. We went back to the counter
again for five minutes where she gave me very detailed information explaining
the benefits of the Pink, Silver, and Gold member levels, and handed me this
pamphlet, telling me just to look it up online, and I could apply there. By this
point I know she was getting irritated, and was purposely holding me there
forever explaining the card info. Making sure I wouldn’t be back a third time. I
walked out the second time to my wife, completely dejected. Her first words
were “If you want to backtalk me again, there’s a sale on leggings at Lululemon
next week”. She felt very bad for the sales lady, but showed me absolutely no
sympathy, or mercy. She laughed so hard, as she pointed out how pathetic I
looked on my second exit from the store. When we arrived home, after all I had
been through already, she began talking to me in a child like voice and said “Go
put on a pair of your pretty new panties”. “I know you’ve been excited to try them
since we left the mall”. “You can celebrate being a big boy; buying your very own
undies, all by yourself”. “You’ll remember this monumental day forever then.”
“Isn’t that wonderful?” She was beautifully brutal, and absolutely relentless,
while endlessly crushing my egocentric, self-absorbed attitude that day. But
there was one really big positive that came out of this punishment for both of us.
I really watch my mouth now. (As a post script: she phoned the store the next
day, and apologized to the sales woman, because this most definitely was not fair
to her.)
bag, relieved that I was done. Then she said “Now go back in, and tell her you
forgot to ask her for information about Victoria’s Secret credit card rewards, and
carry your pretty panty bag back in with you”. This I was not expecting. I went
back, literally trembling, and asked the same sales woman what I had been told to
ask her. She looked at me, and said “you…what”? She gave me the most
menacing look, and I felt the blood rush to my face. We went back to the counter
again for five minutes where she gave me very detailed information explaining
the benefits of the Pink, Silver, and Gold member levels, and handed me this
pamphlet, telling me just to look it up online, and I could apply there. By this
point I know she was getting irritated, and was purposely holding me there
forever explaining the card info. Making sure I wouldn’t be back a third time. I
walked out the second time to my wife, completely dejected. Her first words
were “If you want to backtalk me again, there’s a sale on leggings at Lululemon
next week”. She felt very bad for the sales lady, but showed me absolutely no
sympathy, or mercy. She laughed so hard, as she pointed out how pathetic I
looked on my second exit from the store. When we arrived home, after all I had
been through already, she began talking to me in a child like voice and said “Go
put on a pair of your pretty new panties”. “I know you’ve been excited to try them
since we left the mall”. “You can celebrate being a big boy; buying your very own
undies, all by yourself”. “You’ll remember this monumental day forever then.”
“Isn’t that wonderful?” She was beautifully brutal, and absolutely relentless,
while endlessly crushing my egocentric, self-absorbed attitude that day. But
there was one really big positive that came out of this punishment for both of us.
I really watch my mouth now. (As a post script: she phoned the store the next
day, and apologized to the sales woman, because this most definitely was not fair
to her.)
The second creative punishment was again in 2017 for constantly being slack, and
late with my assigned housework, as I knew that would earn me the paddle, and
strap. Once my wife determined I was doing this, she changed tactics. I was
ordered to (kind of) learn to tap dance from youtube videos. Then I was to learn,
and practice a seven minute routine for her. In addition to this she would film it
so she could upload it to a website at a later date if I ever challenged her
authority in a major way. I practiced for months on the hardwood floor of our
basement; curtains closed. The night of my big performance I put on the dance
costume she chose for me. Rainbow pattern tights, a tanktop, and a yellow bow
in my hair. I then went to the basement in my clickity clack shoes. I enter the
basement, and there are three women sitting with my wife, who introduced
themselves as her co-workers. I blurted out: “you said you were just going to be
filming me”! She said “I will only be filming you, but they want to get in on the
laughs”. This started the laughter right out of the gate. My wife said “quit
whining Dancerella, and do your routine for us” she started the music before I
could say anything else. I danced through seven minutes of laughter, name
calling, and whistles, while the camera captured it all. When I finished, they
started clapping for me; still more whistling, and laughing amongst themselves. I
clacked out of there in my tap shoes on a dead run, straight to the bedroom, and
locked the door. About ten minutes later, a text arrived on my phone. Yes, it was
from my wife, and it read “Did that turn you on dear? Is your turgid member
causing you discomfort?”. It almost brought me to tears, as I knew what she
meant. I stayed there until her friends left. For a year I fretted, and worried that
someone would start spreading this around her office, and who knows where. It
was in 2018 before she told me she had found three dominatrices to play the co-
worker role, solely to increase my nervousness, and they didn’t charge her a
dime. They were happy to help humiliate me for free. I had worried for a year for
nothing. She still has my dance routine stored on her computer. My benefit from
this? I suddenly became a very accomplished housekeeper.
Neither of these punishments involved corporal punishment, or extra chores, yet
they were incredibly effective. They delivered complete humiliation, and
embarrassment. I was literally sick to my stomach, prior to both, and no I don’t
want to repeat them. A cane, and strap have none of these effects on me. She
has taught me well through these events, and she’s made me a better husband.
In closing I will repeat what I wrote in my opening. My main purpose in writing
this guest column was, to possibly broaden others thoughts of what can be
utilized as punishment opportunities. In short, just use your imagination!
this guest column was, to possibly broaden others thoughts of what can be
utilized as punishment opportunities. In short, just use your imagination!
To all the superior women: Do you have punishments that were out of the
ordinary you have carried out? To all husbands: Do you have memories of
unorthodox punishments you have experienced? Please describe them in the
comments below if you care to. Someone’s mistress, or wife may possibly, truly
appreciate you for it one day.
ordinary you have carried out? To all husbands: Do you have memories of
unorthodox punishments you have experienced? Please describe them in the
comments below if you care to. Someone’s mistress, or wife may possibly, truly
appreciate you for it one day.
Sincerely, Edward.
One of Hazel's unusual rules for me was/is that I am to always be barefoot in our house (and outside in our front and back yard as weather permits). She put that one in place before we were even married. Her reasons for this were layered. 1. She liked the symbology of it. Citing the old cliche of women being "barefoot in the kitchen", and believing that me standing in the kitchen and washing dishes (in addition to most of the other chores that need doing in that room) in my bare feet would emphasize and be symbolic of my submissive place in the relationship/marriage. Despite the fact that she is also barefoot most of the time at home, she will still occasionally wear socks in colder months and occasionally a cute pair of shoes if she really likes them. Whereas I have to take my shoes and socks off at the door and no exceptions. 2. Despite my having a foot fetish for women's feet, I have always been very shy and self conscious of my own. This has been her way of forcing me to confront that, get over it, and improve my self confidence about them. Plus she has often said I have exceptionally nice feet for a guy, which leads me to 3. Even though she doesn't have a foot fetish herself (nor a phobia. She's mostly indifferent about them), she thinks I look sexier barefoot since I am primarily the plain t shirt and blue jeans type. She says it gives me that "hippie rocker" vibe despite the fact that I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, let alone play an instrument.
ReplyDeleteWhen she first put this rule in place, I was very nervous, embarrassed, and even a bit resentful. Almost like it was abuse of power on her part and unnecessary. She stuck with it regardless, and as a result I am pretty much much over my shyness regarding my feet. Not only that, but I've grown proud of them to a certain extent. I like that she thinks they're better looking than most guys, that seeing them bare in the house is a constant visual reminder of her leadership and control, and obviously it is way more comfortable for me anyway. I also love that she genuinely wanted to improve my self confidence and took steps to achieve (or rather help me to achieve) that. From what I've said in comments on previous entries, one might get the impression of her being a hard nosed general in some ways. This couldn't be further from the truth. She is a natural leader and disciplinarian when she needs to be, but overall she is by far the sweetest, most loving and caring woman I've ever known. The majority of her rules are based around helping me improve my weaknesses, build my confidence, and work out past hurts and traumas.
- Trent
My wife has done the same thing to me over the last few years. The transition from a "punishment" approach toward "attitude adjustment" can seem like a softening of the intensity of the relationship, but it's also something that's always "on". It's much less work for the wife and creates a more subtle but stable dynamic. We both came from more traditional backgrounds with a a-woman's-place-is-in-the-kitchen mentality, and so that imagery is pretty potent. It's something that's present all the time as a reminder of the inversion of roles and obligations.
DeleteMy wife will usually also require me to get a full pedicure, which still leaves a bit of room for a more traditional punishment of the sort in the stories above. Being stuck with bright pink toenails for two months is no fun at all, especially when guests come over and I have to keep them on full display. (I'm not sure whether it's worse when it's her friends, or mine!)
My wife had me do something similar as a punishment once. She had overheard me talking on the phone with a friend of mine and making several sexist jokes. At first she talked about grounding me, but we were planning a trip to the beach and she didn't want either of us to miss out. We don't get to go on vacation very often, but she said she still couldn't let the sexist jokes fly. So the day before we left, she painted both my finger nails and toe nails a loud shade of pink. Then she took me shopping with her and got me to buy a pair of pink swim trunks. She also told me not to bother packing any close toed shoes because I would be wearing only flip flops until we got home. Suffice it to say, that trip was filled with weird looks, lots of whispering, stifled laughter (and in some cases, NOT so stifled), pointing and turning away, etc, , , , If I'm being honest, it was the end of me making those sorts of jokes with my friends on the phone or in person. So it was a consequence that achieved what it was meant to. The one time somebody there asked outright, Hazel made it sound like I had lost a bet or something. So by letting me still go on the trip and covering for me that once, she was actually surprisingly lenient compared to most cases.
DeleteI'm sorry for you having to face that sort of embarrassment with the painted toe nails, but I can't help but be relieved that I'm not the only one who has the follow that kind of rule. And for the same reasons, no less. I am curious as to how you might have handled any inquires by your house guests and friends regarding the pink toes. Did she allow you to come up with some reason on your own, or like my wife make you explain the actual reason why?
- Trent
There's something of a split between the sort of people she's willing to tease me around (her own close friends) and the people where she lets me have a bit more dignity (my parents, my siblings, my boss). When she has her friends over, I'll usually try to stay out of the way. Sometimes she'll call me in and make me show off, and if anyone makes a comment she'll just say something lighthearted like "Oh, he deserves it, that's what he gets for being naughty."
DeleteI generally beat a hasty retreat after that, looking very red. It's obvious we really love one another, so I doubt they feel too sorry for me.
I see. Better than being grounded at least, right? She ever do that to you?
DeleteI have to say that your relationship with her sounds very sweet. We are both lucky men.
-Trent
I've never been grounded, although given how much of my time is spent between work and home I'm not sure it would be a noticeable change. I pretty much spend every day at work and then every evening doing house and yard chores or doing things with my children. That sounds like a more effective punishment for a younger man with an actual social life!
DeleteI suppose being demanded home in the evening means I'm "grounded" all the time, in some sense. Last week I missed a curfew by about 20 minutes and pretty quickly found myself completely undressed in a large closet, along with my wife and a riding crop...
This was excellent. Thank your for writing it Edward and thank you Mz. Kaylee for sharing it on your blog.
ReplyDeleteOf course it is different for each couple, but the premise for corrective measures, err punishments, is basically the same for everyone. It should something that is unpleasant enough to discourage similar behavior in the future. You mentioned this:
"My wife’s first choice punishment was always the old standby…. corporal. A problem soon became apparent when I started looking forward to these times, and they became non-effective"
We went through a similar period of time in our marriage when I did, in fact, look forward to all that went with getting a "punishment" spanking. The being summoned part. The being required to bare my bottom for the spanking part. It was all very fantastical and sexy more than it was a deterrent because frankly, the spankings weren't that bad. They stung a little yeah, but only seemed to add to the fantasy induced pleasure I was getting from it.
Mistress K. and I spoke it and I admitted once that the punishment spankings I was receiving weren't that stressful because they weren't that hard to endure. This was right about the time when She also began to really come in to her own from a leadership standpoint where she also admitted that some of the WLM things we do (and many we don't) were based on her inherent fear that I would think she wasn't doing it right, or that she would hurt me, or that she was being unfair with things like orgasm denial. Heck there were plenty of times when she would "allow" me an orgasm because she was feeling bad for me. All of which was counterproductive to our dynamic and in the end undermined her role as leader. Her epiphany also included a very heightened awareness that her being selfish about whatever she wanted (or didn't want) was NOT something she needed to guard against, but rather something she needed to embrace. Both because she would begin to truly have what she wanted and just as important, it was the very thing I wanted for her. Selfish regard for her wants and needs, and in turn, this very would greatly enhance the pleasure I would get in serving her needs ... sexually or otherwise.
Almost immediately the spanking were something that I no longer would secretly look forward and would indeed NOT look forward to. She can tell the difference between a spanking I'm enjoying and one that I am very much regretting. My penis cannot lie and if it is hard during a punishment spanking, she knows that she needs to make it hurt.
We recently became empty nesters by sending our youngest to college. Almost immediately she has "turned up the volume" on her dominant leadership and her expectations of my submission, and it is wonderful. We've talked about it and we both know we are at a new threshold of exploration in our relationship and the empty nest thing has already begun to accelerate that. We've talked about this as well and I have vigorously encouraged her to open her horizons as she decided the direction in which our marriage will go, and of course I will eagerly support and assist her in getting her, and us, there.
Thank you for the lovely Guest Post.
Thanks for leaving your wonderful, long reply Sub Hub. It's nice to read that you both, are finding a better dynamic that is working better for you. It's great that now being newly minted empty nesters, you can use this opportunity to create new opportunities as a couple. As Mz Kaylee wrote to me recently, this is always evolving.
DeleteAlso thank you so much for your compliment regarding my guest post. It's the first one I've written, and I was very worried readers would think it was just a written story. These both happened, and it totally sucked for me both times. But I've never repeated either offence since, and for that I will always be in gratitude to my Owner, and Wife. Part of her inventing things like these to make me absolutely cringe, is to test whether I agree, and follow through as the submissive partner, or fight her on them. I think that comes back to the theme of devotion that has had such focus in Mz Kaylee's recent two blogs.
Thank you Edward for taking the time to write this guest post. What I like about the Unorthodox punishment (aside from the deterrent that all punishments provide), is that it can add some fun and humor for the wife and the unusual nature of the punishment is a strong reinforcer of the husbands real submission to his wife. Being subjected to this type of punishment sends an underlying message that he is a controlled and submissive husband.
ReplyDeleteLikewise Mz Kaylee, thank you for allowing me to write, and for considering these accounts worthy of posting. Writing this was quite difficult at times as I was remembering details of these, while knowing I was revealing two very embarrassing ordeals publicly. From my perspective, I didn't consider that there was anything underlying at all, but that she was giving me a very direct message that she controls me. Her statement about the leggings was to communicate that she wouldn't think twice about putting me through it again if my behavior didn't change. Lastly I would also like to thank all who have left their most interesting comments here. I appreciate them all, and have learned from them.
DeleteThe threat of a punishment is a very effective tool. I have never made my husband tell the sales lady that he is buying panties for himself and I have never made him wear a bra in public but have threatened him with those punishment and his behavior had improved immediately.
DeleteAlso, I am familiar with Mistress Scarlet’s writings. If your wife follows her then you best be on your best behavior! Mistress Scarlet is very knowledgeable and a Sadist and so her methods, in my opinion, are extreme.
ReplyDeleteSub hub, the struggles your wife faced are similar to what I experienced and seem to be common for women new to domination or who aren’t naturally dominant. It’s great to hear things are advancing with you two.
ReplyDeleteAs Edward and you noted, punishments should be unpleasant and not something to look forward to. I also want to add that we (wife) do not look forward to punishing either. Ideally you should be serving in a way that does not require punishment at all.
I believe that this is at the very heart of any loving Wife Led Marriage.
Delete"I also want to add that we (wife) do not look forward to punishing either. Ideally you should be serving in a way that does not require punishment at all."
I understand it completely. A significant part of the regret that feel when earning a punishment is that I have disappointed her in such a way that requires punishment in the first. After all, my gift of submission to her is intended to provide comfort and bliss in her life, and not to cause tasks for her (punishment).
This hit close to home as I imagine it does for many couples...initially my wife began to tire of and resent being dominant as she saw that traditional "punishments" were often exactly what my submissive streak craved and became tiresome for her rather than empowering. She remarked that in this sense submissive men are often trying to be both dominant and submissive at the same time by in essence dictating how and when their submissive scratch gets itched.
ReplyDeleteSo it became and has been a journey for us/her since then; as she put it, a proper submissive should seek to serve in such a way as to, ideally, never need punishment. At first this meant rather severe corporal punishment where she was essentially beating and whipping me to exhaustion (I learned during this period what true pain feels like). But this was physically and emotionally draining for her, she said (ironically, something she concluded while I was hanging, hands tied, after being whipped for an hour). She ultimately decided that punishment needed to revolve around giving me less of "her", given that she (my mistress) is at the center of our whole dynamic. I've related her how this meant "moving out" of "her bedroom" and sleeping separately while going nearly two years without any sexual relief (though I serviced her needs almost daily during this period). Since then, I have been "rewarded" with some contact but the extended time off, which included taking on 100% of chores, definitely helped wean me from the traditional punishment route.